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Jianping Jin ▴ 890
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Dear list: There is an issue that is not clear to me, even after I read "Description of gcrma package" and the on-line help. The default setting for "affinity.info" is NULL. Based on the description for the program it appears that NULL does not use apm (for PM probe), amm (MM probe), or index of your own data. Are the affinities calculated in just.gcrma based on "hgu95av2" data set or something else with affinity.info=NULL? Another question I have is for "type". As there is no default parameter for the type setting, which model does "just.gcrma" take for running without defining any parameters? I will appreciate it if you could help me out! Jianping xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x Jianping Jin Ph.D. x x Bioinformatics scientist x x Center for bioinformatics x x 3133 Bioinformatics Building x x CB# 7104 x x University of North Carolina x x Chapel Hill, NC 27599 x x Tel: (919)843-6105 x x Fax: (919)843-3103 x x E-mail: jjin at email.unc.edu x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Jianping, Jianping Jin wrote: > Dear list: > > There is an issue that is not clear to me, even after I read "Description > of gcrma package" and the on-line help. The default setting for > "affinity.info" is NULL. Based on the description for the program it > appears that NULL does not use apm (for PM probe), amm (MM probe), or index > of your own data. Are the affinities calculated in just.gcrma based on > "hgu95av2" data set or something else with affinity.info=NULL? The affinities are calculated based on the MM sequences, which are extracted from the corresponding probe package. Since they are based on the sequence of the probes, there is no reason to use an individual data set. You _could_ compute the affinities for a particular chip and then save that data somewhere so you wouldn't have to compute it every time you ran gcrma, which is why you have the option of specifying the affinity.info. In fact it was suggested at one time by Robert Gentleman that we should put the affinity.info somewhere (I suggested the probe packages) so it wouldn't have to be recomputed every time, which is simply a waste of compute cycles. However, people got busy and it never got implemented. > > Another question I have is for "type". As there is no default parameter for > the type setting, which model does "just.gcrma" take for running without > defining any parameters? There _is_ a default parameter. Any time you see something like type = c("fullmodel", "affinities", "mm", "constant") in the arguments of a function, there should be a corresponding type <- match.arg(type) in the body of the function. If you don't specify a type, then the argument that will be matched by default is the first one in the argument vector, which in this case is 'fullmodel'. HTH, Jim > > I will appreciate it if you could help me out! > > Jianping > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > x Jianping Jin Ph.D. x > x Bioinformatics scientist x > x Center for bioinformatics x > x 3133 Bioinformatics Building x > x CB# 7104 x > x University of North Carolina x > x Chapel Hill, NC 27599 x > x Tel: (919)843-6105 x > x Fax: (919)843-3103 x > x E-mail: jjin at email.unc.edu x > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor -- James W. MacDonald, M.S. Biostatistician Affymetrix and cDNA Microarray Core University of Michigan Cancer Center 1500 E. Medical Center Drive 7410 CCGC Ann Arbor MI 48109 734-647-5623 ********************************************************** Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues.
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Thanks a lot Jim! JP- --On Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:51 AM -0400 "James W. MacDonald" <jmacdon at="" med.umich.edu=""> wrote: > Hi Jianping, > > Jianping Jin wrote: >> Dear list: >> >> There is an issue that is not clear to me, even after I read >> "Description of gcrma package" and the on-line help. The default >> setting for "affinity.info" is NULL. Based on the description for the >> program it appears that NULL does not use apm (for PM probe), amm (MM >> probe), or index of your own data. Are the affinities calculated in >> just.gcrma based on "hgu95av2" data set or something else with >> affinity.info=NULL? > > The affinities are calculated based on the MM sequences, which are > extracted from the corresponding probe package. Since they are based on > the sequence of the probes, there is no reason to use an individual data > set. > > You _could_ compute the affinities for a particular chip and then save > that data somewhere so you wouldn't have to compute it every time you ran > gcrma, which is why you have the option of specifying the affinity.info. > In fact it was suggested at one time by Robert Gentleman that we should > put the affinity.info somewhere (I suggested the probe packages) so it > wouldn't have to be recomputed every time, which is simply a waste of > compute cycles. However, people got busy and it never got implemented. > >> >> Another question I have is for "type". As there is no default parameter >> for the type setting, which model does "just.gcrma" take for running >> without defining any parameters? > > There _is_ a default parameter. Any time you see something like > > type = c("fullmodel", "affinities", "mm", "constant") > > in the arguments of a function, there should be a corresponding > > type <- match.arg(type) > > in the body of the function. If you don't specify a type, then the > argument that will be matched by default is the first one in the argument > vector, which in this case is 'fullmodel'. > > HTH, > > Jim > > >> >> I will appreciate it if you could help me out! >> >> Jianping >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> x Jianping Jin Ph.D. x >> x Bioinformatics scientist x >> x Center for bioinformatics x >> x 3133 Bioinformatics Building x >> x CB# 7104 x >> x University of North Carolina x >> x Chapel Hill, NC 27599 x >> x Tel: (919)843-6105 x >> x Fax: (919)843-3103 x >> x E-mail: jjin at email.unc.edu x >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > -- > James W. MacDonald, M.S. > Biostatistician > Affymetrix and cDNA Microarray Core > University of Michigan Cancer Center > 1500 E. Medical Center Drive > 7410 CCGC > Ann Arbor MI 48109 > 734-647-5623 > > > ********************************************************** > Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not > be used for urgent or sensitive issues. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x Jianping Jin Ph.D. x x Bioinformatics scientist x x Center for bioinformatics x x 3133 Bioinformatics Building x x CB# 7104 x x University of North Carolina x x Chapel Hill, NC 27599 x x Tel: (919)843-6105 x x Fax: (919)843-3103 x x E-mail: jjin at email.unc.edu x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Jean, Thanks for your very clear explanation! best whishes, JP- Quoting "Zhijin (Jean) Wu" <zwu at="" alexander.stat.brown.edu="">: > The affinity.info will be computed using probe sequence of your array > type, but the function that maps probe sequence to probe affinity is > trained on a non-specific binding experiment on hgu95av2 platform. > > WHen type is not specified, "fullmodel" is used (both probe sequence and > MM measurements are used to estimate background). > > best, > Jean > > On Tue, 2 May 2006, Jianping Jin wrote: > >> Dear list: >> >> There is an issue that is not clear to me, even after I read "Description >> of gcrma package" and the on-line help. The default setting for >> "affinity.info" is NULL. Based on the description for the program it >> appears that NULL does not use apm (for PM probe), amm (MM probe), or index >> of your own data. Are the affinities calculated in just.gcrma based on >> "hgu95av2" data set or something else with affinity.info=NULL? >> >> Another question I have is for "type". As there is no default parameter for >> the type setting, which model does "just.gcrma" take for running without >> defining any parameters? >> >> I will appreciate it if you could help me out! >> >> Jianping >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> x Jianping Jin Ph.D. x >> x Bioinformatics scientist x >> x Center for bioinformatics x >> x 3133 Bioinformatics Building x >> x CB# 7104 x >> x University of North Carolina x >> x Chapel Hill, NC 27599 x >> x Tel: (919)843-6105 x >> x Fax: (919)843-3103 x >> x E-mail: jjin at email.unc.edu x >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >
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The affinity.info will be computed using probe sequence of your array type, but the function that maps probe sequence to probe affinity is trained on a non-specific binding experiment on hgu95av2 platform. WHen type is not specified, "fullmodel" is used (both probe sequence and MM measurements are used to estimate background). best, Jean On Tue, 2 May 2006, Jianping Jin wrote: > Dear list: > > There is an issue that is not clear to me, even after I read "Description > of gcrma package" and the on-line help. The default setting for > "affinity.info" is NULL. Based on the description for the program it > appears that NULL does not use apm (for PM probe), amm (MM probe), or index > of your own data. Are the affinities calculated in just.gcrma based on > "hgu95av2" data set or something else with affinity.info=NULL? > > Another question I have is for "type". As there is no default parameter for > the type setting, which model does "just.gcrma" take for running without > defining any parameters? > > I will appreciate it if you could help me out! > > Jianping > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > x Jianping Jin Ph.D. x > x Bioinformatics scientist x > x Center for bioinformatics x > x 3133 Bioinformatics Building x > x CB# 7104 x > x University of North Carolina x > x Chapel Hill, NC 27599 x > x Tel: (919)843-6105 x > x Fax: (919)843-3103 x > x E-mail: jjin at email.unc.edu x > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >
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