Rredland installation difficulties
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I wish to read BioPAX level 2 pathway files from the National Cancer Institute's 'Pathway Interaction Database'. Rredland was recommended to me which looks looks very promising. Perhaps these pathways can even be expressed as a bioc graph... I have enountered some of problems, leading to these questions and comments: 1) Lacking librdf, I used darwin ports to install it on my MacBook (Leopard) laptop. This installed lots of libraries to /opt/local/ lib. Rredland seems to want dynamic libraries in /usr/local/lib. Is this a mac os x tiger/leopard difference? Do I run into this because I used the Tiger binary, in the absence of a Leopard binary? Is a Leopard binary planned for the future? Shall I try to build from source? 2) (minor) The 'Reference Manual' link at http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rredland.html points to http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/, rather than to a document. Thanks! - Paul
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Paul, We currently don't support Rredland in a mac.binary.leopard format because we don't have the infrastructure in place to support it on the build machine. Since we build universal binaries (i386, x86_64, ppc) on Mac OS X Leopard we usually have to build 3rd party libraries ourselves, unless generous people in the user community build them for us. (Thanks Gtk+ team!) With Rredland we need to install both redland and Berkeley DB on our build machine. I have redland in place, but need to do some research getting Berkeley DB installed. If we do move to support Rredland in a mac.leopard.binary form, it will more than likely be with custom builds with libraries located in /usr/local, not /opt/local as darwin ports likes to use, just as the Tiger build is structured. Have you tried to install the package from source? If so what results have you had? Thanks for the tip on the misdirected link. I suspect the Reference Manual wasn't built properly and this the result. I'll look to correct this. Patrick Quoting Paul Shannon <pshannon at="" systemsbiology.org="">: > I wish to read BioPAX level 2 pathway files from the National Cancer > Institute's 'Pathway Interaction Database'. Rredland was recommended > to me which looks looks very promising. Perhaps these pathways can > even be expressed as a bioc graph... > > I have enountered some of problems, leading to these questions and comments: > > 1) Lacking librdf, I used darwin ports to install it on my MacBook > (Leopard) laptop. This installed lots of libraries to /opt/local/lib. > Rredland seems to want dynamic libraries in /usr/local/lib. Is this a > mac os x tiger/leopard difference? Do I run into this because I used > the Tiger binary, in the absence of a Leopard binary? Is a Leopard > binary planned for the future? Shall I try to build from source? > > 2) (minor) The 'Reference Manual' link at > http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rredland.html > points to http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/, > rather than to a document. > > Thanks! > > - Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor
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for what it's worth, librdf has supported sqlite stores for some time. we might consider dropping the requirement for the BDB back end and use sqlite henceforth. if i knew there were users i would explore this; a caveat is that the redland examples of the sqlite interface were not very clear when i last checked. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Patrick Aboyoun <paboyoun@fhcrc.org> wrote: > Paul, > We currently don't support Rredland in a mac.binary.leopard format because > we don't have the infrastructure in place to support it on the build > machine. Since we build universal binaries (i386, x86_64, ppc) on Mac OS X > Leopard we usually have to build 3rd party libraries ourselves, unless > generous people in the user community build them for us. (Thanks Gtk+ team!) > With Rredland we need to install both redland and Berkeley DB on our build > machine. I have redland in place, but need to do some research getting > Berkeley DB installed. If we do move to support Rredland in a > mac.leopard.binary form, it will more than likely be with custom builds with > libraries located in /usr/local, not /opt/local as darwin ports likes to > use, just as the Tiger build is structured. Have you tried to install the > package from source? If so what results have you had? > > Thanks for the tip on the misdirected link. I suspect the Reference Manual > wasn't built properly and this the result. I'll look to correct this. > > > Patrick > > > > Quoting Paul Shannon <pshannon@systemsbiology.org>: > > I wish to read BioPAX level 2 pathway files from the National Cancer >> Institute's 'Pathway Interaction Database'. Rredland was recommended >> to me which looks looks very promising. Perhaps these pathways can >> even be expressed as a bioc graph... >> >> I have enountered some of problems, leading to these questions and >> comments: >> >> 1) Lacking librdf, I used darwin ports to install it on my MacBook >> (Leopard) laptop. This installed lots of libraries to /opt/local/lib. >> Rredland seems to want dynamic libraries in /usr/local/lib. Is this a >> mac os x tiger/leopard difference? Do I run into this because I used >> the Tiger binary, in the absence of a Leopard binary? Is a Leopard >> binary planned for the future? Shall I try to build from source? >> >> 2) (minor) The 'Reference Manual' link at >> http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rredland.html >> points to http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/, >> rather than to a document. >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > -- Vincent Carey, PhD Biostatistics, Channing Lab 617 525 2265 [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Vince and Patrick, Thanks to you both for your replies. I propose to install Rredland on a linux box, and try out the idea of using it to obtain networks from NCI. That ought to work, right? -- Rredland is known to work when built from source on linux? If NCI proves to be a good source for cancer-related pathways, then maybe that would justify including mac.binary.leopard builds at some time in the future. - Paul On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Vincent Carey wrote: > for what it's worth, librdf has supported sqlite stores for some > time. we might consider dropping > the requirement for the BDB back end and use sqlite henceforth. if > i knew there were users > i would explore this; a caveat is that the redland examples of the > sqlite interface were not > very clear when i last checked. > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Patrick Aboyoun > <paboyoun at="" fhcrc.org=""> wrote: > Paul, > We currently don't support Rredland in a mac.binary.leopard format > because we don't have the infrastructure in place to support it on > the build machine. Since we build universal binaries (i386, x86_64, > ppc) on Mac OS X Leopard we usually have to build 3rd party > libraries ourselves, unless generous people in the user community > build them for us. (Thanks Gtk+ team!) With Rredland we need to > install both redland and Berkeley DB on our build machine. I have > redland in place, but need to do some research getting Berkeley DB > installed. If we do move to support Rredland in a mac.leopard.binary > form, it will more than likely be with custom builds with libraries > located in /usr/local, not /opt/local as darwin ports likes to use, > just as the Tiger build is structured. Have you tried to install the > package from source? If so what results have you had? > > Thanks for the tip on the misdirected link. I suspect the Reference > Manual wasn't built properly and this the result. I'll look to > correct this. > > > Patrick > > > > Quoting Paul Shannon <pshannon at="" systemsbiology.org="">: > > I wish to read BioPAX level 2 pathway files from the National Cancer > Institute's 'Pathway Interaction Database'. Rredland was recommended > to me which looks looks very promising. Perhaps these pathways can > even be expressed as a bioc graph... > > I have enountered some of problems, leading to these questions and > comments: > > 1) Lacking librdf, I used darwin ports to install it on my MacBook > (Leopard) laptop. This installed lots of libraries to /opt/local/lib. > Rredland seems to want dynamic libraries in /usr/local/lib. Is this a > mac os x tiger/leopard difference? Do I run into this because I used > the Tiger binary, in the absence of a Leopard binary? Is a Leopard > binary planned for the future? Shall I try to build from source? > > 2) (minor) The 'Reference Manual' link at > http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rredland.html > points to http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/, > rather than to a document. > > Thanks! > > - Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > > -- > Vincent Carey, PhD > Biostatistics, Channing Lab > 617 525 2265
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you will need librdf.so and LD_LIBRARY_PATH suitably set. i have succeeded with librdf 1.0.8 on a centos system. building librdf 1.0.9 from svn source requires various gnome and docbook facilities that i have had trouble with. the point is that, like graphviz or XML, the Rredland package is not self-contained -- you need an external library. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Paul Shannon <pshannon@systemsbiology.org>wrote: > Vince and Patrick, > > Thanks to you both for your replies. > > I propose to install Rredland on a linux box, and try out the idea of using > it to obtain networks from NCI. That ought to work, right? -- Rredland is > known to work when built from source on linux? > > If NCI proves to be a good source for cancer-related pathways, then maybe > that would justify including mac.binary.leopard builds at some time in the > future. > > - Paul > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Vincent Carey wrote: > > for what it's worth, librdf has supported sqlite stores for some time. we >> might consider dropping >> the requirement for the BDB back end and use sqlite henceforth. if i knew >> there were users >> i would explore this; a caveat is that the redland examples of the sqlite >> interface were not >> very clear when i last checked. >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Patrick Aboyoun <paboyoun@fhcrc.org> >> wrote: >> Paul, >> We currently don't support Rredland in a mac.binary.leopard format because >> we don't have the infrastructure in place to support it on the build >> machine. Since we build universal binaries (i386, x86_64, ppc) on Mac OS X >> Leopard we usually have to build 3rd party libraries ourselves, unless >> generous people in the user community build them for us. (Thanks Gtk+ team!) >> With Rredland we need to install both redland and Berkeley DB on our build >> machine. I have redland in place, but need to do some research getting >> Berkeley DB installed. If we do move to support Rredland in a >> mac.leopard.binary form, it will more than likely be with custom builds with >> libraries located in /usr/local, not /opt/local as darwin ports likes to >> use, just as the Tiger build is structured. Have you tried to install the >> package from source? If so what results have you had? >> >> Thanks for the tip on the misdirected link. I suspect the Reference Manual >> wasn't built properly and this the result. I'll look to correct this. >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> Quoting Paul Shannon <pshannon@systemsbiology.org>: >> >> I wish to read BioPAX level 2 pathway files from the National Cancer >> Institute's 'Pathway Interaction Database'. Rredland was recommended >> to me which looks looks very promising. Perhaps these pathways can >> even be expressed as a bioc graph... >> >> I have enountered some of problems, leading to these questions and >> comments: >> >> 1) Lacking librdf, I used darwin ports to install it on my MacBook >> (Leopard) laptop. This installed lots of libraries to /opt/local/lib. >> Rredland seems to want dynamic libraries in /usr/local/lib. Is this a >> mac os x tiger/leopard difference? Do I run into this because I used >> the Tiger binary, in the absence of a Leopard binary? Is a Leopard >> binary planned for the future? Shall I try to build from source? >> >> 2) (minor) The 'Reference Manual' link at >> http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rredland.html >> points to http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/, >> rather than to a document. >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> >> >> -- >> Vincent Carey, PhD >> Biostatistics, Channing Lab >> 617 525 2265 >> > > -- Vincent Carey, PhD Biostatistics, Channing Lab 617 525 2265 [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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