Romer and symbols2indices query
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Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try romer and have probably "simple" question To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer Also checked limma reference pdf Thank you [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Dear Loren, You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray data. For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, then run the following. load("human_c2.rdata") c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your array data) Best wishes, Matt > Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try romer > and have probably "simple" question > > To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is > symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but > > 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And > 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? > > I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer > Also checked limma reference pdf > > Thank you ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and intend...{{dropped:4}}
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Thank you, got it Downloading rdata objects saves reading them into an rdata object, cool But for interest, in R/GSA there is GSA.read.gmt(filename.gmt) to read in a .gmt file Does limma or romer have an equivalent function? > From: Matthew Ritchie <mritchie at="" wehi.edu.au=""> > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) > To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > Dear Loren, > > You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at > > http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html > > You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() > are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray > data. > > For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, then > run the following. > > load("human_c2.rdata") > c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) > > (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your > array data) > > Best wishes, > > Matt > >> Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try romer >> and have probably "simple" question >> >> To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is >> symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but >> >> 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And >> 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? >> >> I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer >> Also checked limma reference pdf >> >> Thank you > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}}
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Very briefly, the GSEABase package has relevant utilities for gmt file import/export and may be worth considering for these tasks. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Loren Engrav <engrav@u.washington.edu>wrote: > Thank you, got it > > Downloading rdata objects saves reading them into an rdata object, cool > > But for interest, in R/GSA there is > GSA.read.gmt(filename.gmt) to read in a .gmt file > > Does limma or romer have an equivalent function? > > > > From: Matthew Ritchie <mritchie@wehi.edu.au> > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) > > To: Loren Engrav <engrav@u.washington.edu> > > Cc: rbioc <bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch> > > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > > > Dear Loren, > > > > You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at > > > > http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html > > > > You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() > > are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray > > data. > > > > For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, > then > > run the following. > > > > load("human_c2.rdata") > > c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) > > > > (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your > > array data) > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Matt > > > >> Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try > romer > >> and have probably "simple" question > >> > >> To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is > >> symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but > >> > >> 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And > >> 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? > >> > >> I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer > >> Also checked limma reference pdf > >> > >> Thank you > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}} > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Ah yes, cool, I will use it I have now run GSEA, R/GSA and limma/romer I suppose could try PGSEA and GSEAlm But maybe the first 3 are enough Maybe time to quit fiddling > From: Vincent Carey <stvjc at="" channing.harvard.edu=""> > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:40:39 -0400 > To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > Very briefly, the GSEABase package has relevant utilities for gmt file > import/export and may be worth considering for these tasks. > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu="">wrote: > >> Thank you, got it >> >> Downloading rdata objects saves reading them into an rdata object, cool >> >> But for interest, in R/GSA there is >> GSA.read.gmt(filename.gmt) to read in a .gmt file >> >> Does limma or romer have an equivalent function? >> >> >>> From: Matthew Ritchie <mritchie at="" wehi.edu.au=""> >>> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) >>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >>> Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> >>> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query >>> >>> Dear Loren, >>> >>> You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at >>> >>> http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html >>> >>> You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() >>> are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray >>> data. >>> >>> For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, >> then >>> run the following. >>> >>> load("human_c2.rdata") >>> c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) >>> >>> (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your >>> array data) >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Matt >>> >>>> Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try >> romer >>>> and have probably "simple" question >>>> >>>> To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is >>>> symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but >>>> >>>> 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And >>>> 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? >>>> >>>> I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer >>>> Also checked limma reference pdf >>>> >>>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}} >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >
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Am back So I have romer and GSEABase running via previous help thank you, but while running I explore GSEABase And I have a lesser question for interest In GSEABase I do gmtObject <- getGMT("c2all.v2.5.symbols.gmt", collectionType=BroadCollection(category="c2"), geneType=SymbolIdentifier()) which finishes without error Then class(gmtObject) is GeneSetCollection How do I convert gmtObject to a list of gene sets as required in romer when using X <- symbols2indices (ListOfGeneSets, MYsymbols) From: Vincent Carey <stvjc@channing.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:40:39 -0400 To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query Very briefly, the GSEABase package has relevant utilities for gmt file import/export and may be worth considering for these tasks. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> wrote: > Thank you, got it > > Downloading rdata objects saves reading them into an rdata object, cool > > But for interest, in R/GSA there is > GSA.read.gmt(filename.gmt) to read in a .gmt file > > Does limma or romer have an equivalent function? > > >> From: Matthew Ritchie <mritchie at="" wehi.edu.au=""> >> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) >> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >> Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> >> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query >> >> Dear Loren, >> >> You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at >> >> http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html >> >> You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() >> are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray >> data. >> >> For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, then >> run the following. >> >> load("human_c2.rdata") >> c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) >> >> (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your >> array data) >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Matt >> >>> Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try romer >>> and have probably "simple" question >>> >>> To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is >>> symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but >>> >>> 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And >>> 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? >>> >>> I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer >>> Also checked limma reference pdf >>> >>> Thank you >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}} > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor
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On 05/04/2010 07:57 PM, Loren Engrav wrote: > Am back > > So I have romer and GSEABase running via previous help thank you, but while > running I explore GSEABase > > And I have a lesser question for interest > > In GSEABase I do > gmtObject <- getGMT("c2all.v2.5.symbols.gmt", > collectionType=BroadCollection(category="c2"), geneType=SymbolIdentifier()) or maybe getBroadSets ? > which finishes without error > Then > class(gmtObject) is GeneSetCollection > > How do I convert gmtObject to a list of gene sets as required in romer when > using gmtl <- geneIds(gmtObject) names(gmtl) <- names(gmtObject) ? Martin > X <- symbols2indices (ListOfGeneSets, MYsymbols) > > > > From: Vincent Carey <stvjc at="" channing.harvard.edu=""> > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:40:39 -0400 > To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > Very briefly, the GSEABase package has relevant utilities for gmt file > import/export and may be worth considering for these tasks. > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > wrote: >> Thank you, got it >> >> Downloading rdata objects saves reading them into an rdata object, cool >> >> But for interest, in R/GSA there is >> GSA.read.gmt(filename.gmt) to read in a .gmt file >> >> Does limma or romer have an equivalent function? >> >> >>> From: Matthew Ritchie <mritchie at="" wehi.edu.au=""> >>> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) >>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >>> Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> >>> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query >>> >>> Dear Loren, >>> >>> You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at >>> >>> http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html >>> >>> You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() >>> are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray >>> data. >>> >>> For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, then >>> run the following. >>> >>> load("human_c2.rdata") >>> c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) >>> >>> (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your >>> array data) >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Matt >>> >>>> Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try romer >>>> and have probably "simple" question >>>> >>>> To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is >>>> symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but >>>> >>>> 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And >>>> 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? >>>> >>>> I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer >>>> Also checked limma reference pdf >>>> >>>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}} >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor -- Martin Morgan Computational Biology / Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N. PO Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109 Location: Arnold Building M1 B861 Phone: (206) 667-2793
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Bingo, thank you and romer ran These missing little tidbits can be brutal > From: Martin Morgan <mtmorgan at="" fhcrc.org=""> > Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 05:11:02 -0700 > To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > On 05/04/2010 07:57 PM, Loren Engrav wrote: >> Am back >> >> So I have romer and GSEABase running via previous help thank you, but while >> running I explore GSEABase >> >> And I have a lesser question for interest >> >> In GSEABase I do >> gmtObject <- getGMT("c2all.v2.5.symbols.gmt", >> collectionType=BroadCollection(category="c2"), geneType=SymbolIdentifier()) > > or maybe getBroadSets ? > >> which finishes without error >> Then >> class(gmtObject) is GeneSetCollection >> >> How do I convert gmtObject to a list of gene sets as required in romer when >> using > > gmtl <- geneIds(gmtObject) > names(gmtl) <- names(gmtObject) > > ? > > Martin > >> X <- symbols2indices (ListOfGeneSets, MYsymbols) >> >> >> >> From: Vincent Carey <stvjc at="" channing.harvard.edu=""> >> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:40:39 -0400 >> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >> Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> >> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query >> >> Very briefly, the GSEABase package has relevant utilities for gmt file >> import/export and may be worth considering for these tasks. >> >> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >> wrote: >>> Thank you, got it >>> >>> Downloading rdata objects saves reading them into an rdata object, cool >>> >>> But for interest, in R/GSA there is >>> GSA.read.gmt(filename.gmt) to read in a .gmt file >>> >>> Does limma or romer have an equivalent function? >>> >>> >>>> From: Matthew Ritchie <mritchie at="" wehi.edu.au=""> >>>> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) >>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >>>> Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> >>>> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query >>>> >>>> Dear Loren, >>>> >>>> You can find rdata objects of the Broad's MSigDB gene sets at >>>> >>>> http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/software/MSigDB/index.html >>>> >>>> You are right, the 'symbols' argument in the function symbols2indicies() >>>> are the gene symbols corresponding to the probes from your microarray >>>> data. >>>> >>>> For example, to use the human C2 collection, download the rdata file, then >>>> run the following. >>>> >>>> load("human_c2.rdata") >>>> c2 = symbols2indices(Hs.gmtl.c2, symbols) >>>> >>>> (this assumes 'symbols' is a vector containing the gene symbols from your >>>> array data) >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>>> Have done GSEA and GSA for set enrichment and am setting out to try romer >>>>> and have probably "simple" question >>>>> >>>>> To get the Broad set into a list of indices there is >>>>> symbols2indices(gmtl.official, symbols) but >>>>> >>>>> 1)how do I get the Broad set into gmtl.official? And >>>>> 2)is symbols a vector of MY probe sets of interest? >>>>> >>>>> I checked gmane and found only one comment about romer >>>>> Also checked limma reference pdf >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>> The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}} >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bioconductor mailing list >>> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >>> Search the archives: >>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > -- > Martin Morgan > Computational Biology / Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center > 1100 Fairview Ave. N. > PO Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109 > > Location: Arnold Building M1 B861 > Phone: (206) 667-2793
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Dear Loren, I don't know what files or pdfs you mean but, anyway, the link given by Matt Ritchie is the correct one. Those are the database files we intend you to use. Best wishes Gordon > Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:50:43 -0700 > From: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > To: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query ... > But I am searching for the files you mention in help(romer) and the 3 pdfs > and have missed them. Where may I find them? Or are they the files Matthew > mentioned below at <http: bioinf.wehi.edu.au="" software="" msigdb="" index.html="">? ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and intend...{{dropped:4}}
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Thank you By pdfs I meant the limma documentation pdfs But I downloaded the C2 file and will use same In fact I might run the homemade file against the rdata file and see how they compare as well Thank you again > From: Gordon K Smyth <smyth at="" wehi.edu.au=""> > Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:51:52 +1000 (AUS Eastern Standard Time) > To: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> > Cc: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch="">, Yifang Hu <hu at="" wehi.edu.au="">, Matt > Ritchie <mritchie at="" wehi.edu.au=""> > Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > Dear Loren, > > I don't know what files or pdfs you mean but, anyway, the link given by > Matt Ritchie is the correct one. Those are the database files we intend > you to use. > > Best wishes > Gordon > >> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:50:43 -0700 >> From: Loren Engrav <engrav at="" u.washington.edu=""> >> To: rbioc <bioconductor at="" stat.math.ethz.ch=""> >> Subject: Re: [BioC] Romer and symbols2indices query > > ... > >> But I am searching for the files you mention in help(romer) and the 3 pdfs >> and have missed them. Where may I find them? Or are they the files Matthew >> mentioned below at <http: bioinf.wehi.edu.au="" software="" msigdb="" index.html="">? > > ______________________________________________________________________ > The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:7}}
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