Re: Bioconductor Digest, Vol 21, Issue 12
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@gordon-smyth
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You are reading the Limma User's Guide written for Bioconductor Release 1.4. Could I encourage you to consider the moving onto Bioconductor 1.5? Even without upgrading your software, you could read a more recent User's Guide at http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/limma/usersguide.pdf. Section 10 might help, especially section 10.5. >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:11:34 -0000 >From: "michael watson (IAH-C)" <michael.watson@bbsrc.ac.uk> >Subject: [BioC] Confusion over limma documentation and design/contrast > matrices >To: <bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch> > >Hi > >The confusion comes from the examples given in usersguide.pdf. Sections >7.3 and 8.2 both deal with two colour microarray data where a common >reference has been used. > >Section 7.3 advocates the use of designMatrix() and makeContrasts(), >where lmFit() is first used with the design matrix, and then >contrasts.fit() is used with the contrasts matrix, and then eBayes() >applied to the resulting linear model fit. > >Section 8.2 gives us the design matrix directly, and does not use a >contrasts matrix at all. > >So my first question is this: with two colour cDNA microarrays which use >a common reference, do we need both a design matrix and a contrasts >matrix, or just a design matrix? (I'm assuming it depends on how many >samples there are in addition to the reference, but I'm not sure). > >Looking at section 8.2, the ApoAI data, we have three samples - control >mice, ApoAI mice and the reference sample. 8 control mice were compared >to the reference and 8 ApoAI mice were compared to the reference, and in >all cases the reference was Cy3. Therefore, a targets file to describe >this experiment can reasonably be expected to look like this: > > SlideNumber Cy5 Cy3 >1 c1 Control Ref >2 c2 Control Ref >3 c3 Control Ref >4 c4 Control Ref >5 c5 Control Ref >6 c6 Control Ref >7 c7 Control Ref >8 c8 Control Ref >9 k1 ApoAI Ref >10 k2 ApoAI Ref >11 k3 ApoAI Ref >12 k4 ApoAI Ref >13 k5 ApoAI Ref >14 k6 ApoAI Ref >15 k7 ApoAI Ref >16 k8 ApoAI Ref > >If we run modelMatrix() on this, we get this: > > ApoAI Control >1 0 1 >2 0 1 >3 0 1 >4 0 1 >5 0 1 >6 0 1 >7 0 1 >8 0 1 >9 1 0 >10 1 0 >11 1 0 >12 1 0 >13 1 0 >14 1 0 >15 1 0 >16 1 0 > >If we then carry on the example in 7.3, and create a contrasts matrix, >then I assume we are interested in the comparison of ApoAI knockout mice >to Control mice, so I run: > > > makeContrasts(ApoAI-Control, levels=apoai.design) > >And get this > > ApoAI - Control >ApoAI 1 >Control -1 > >So, just to take a breath here, I am using the documentation from >section 7.3 to run against the data in section 8.2. I now have a design >matrix and a contrasts matrix for the ApoAI data. The only problem is >that they look completely different to the example design matrix given >in section 8.2. The design matrix there is: > > Control-Ref KO-Control >c1 1 0 >c2 1 0 >c3 1 0 >c4 1 0 >c5 1 0 >c6 1 0 >c7 1 0 >c8 1 0 >k1 1 1 >k2 1 1 >k3 1 1 >k4 1 1 >k5 1 1 >k6 1 1 >k7 1 1 >k8 1 1 > >And there is no contrasts matrix. > >So, my question 2: is the design matrix given in section 8.2 the >equivalent of using the design and contrasts matrices that I calculated >above? Yes it is. This has been said many, many times on this list. Do you know how to multiply a vector by a matrix? If you do, then I think the best way to figure out what the design matrix is doing for you is just to sit down with a piece of paper and a pencil for a few minutes, and multiply the design matrix by the coefficient vector. Gordon >Question 3: does the fact that the ApoAI data only has one contrast of >interest mean that I don't need a contrasts matrix, I only need a design >matrix? (albeit a DIFFERENT design matrix to one that would be given by >modelMatrix()). > >Question 4: can anyone recommend a good book which I can go and read and >learn all about design and contrast matrices and their relation to >linear models? Everything I have read so far just says something like >"... The design matrix is therefore this... and the contrast matrix is >therefore this..." and doesn't actually explain how exactly the >structure of the matrices was arrived at... > >Thanks and sorry for the long mail! > >Mick
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