Single Channel Analysis in Limma using lmscFit
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@brett-abrahams-1195
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Hello, I would like to use limma to carry out single channel analyses on some two color data (to address comparisons that can't be made with standard methods and my unconnected experimental design). I'm able to get two color analyses to work nicely but run into problems when I try to run the single channel analysis using the 'lmscFit' function (as described in the March 9 2005 user's guide) . Everything seems to work fine until I run 'intraspotCorrelation' which results in a number of errors (see Point 1 below for input/output). I've looked into the versions of limma (Version: 1.8.22) and statmod (Version: 1.1.0) but this doesn't seem to be the answer as both are current. Any thoughts on why these error messages are being generated and what I can do to fix the problem would be much appreciated. Also, am I right in thinking the 'reml' errors I get refer to problems with only single genes? I picked this up from a previous post to the list but may have misinterpreted. If I ignore the errors and carry on with the analysis through to the topTable I get more results that I can't understand (see Point 2 below input/output). What's confusing me here is that although results from the 'decideTests' function seems to suggest that differentially expressed genes are present within each of the four contrasts I've specified, only one of the four corresponding topTables shows anything with significant p values. Amongst the contrasts without significant differences most p values are >0.5 and all B values are negative. Any clarification would be great. Thanks in advance for this wonderful software and superb documentation / support. Bret Point 1 > corfit <- intraspotCorrelation(MA, design) Loading required package: statmod Attaching package 'statmod': The following object(s) are masked from package:limma : matvec vecmat Warning messages: 1: reml: Max iterations exceeded in: remlscore(y, X, Z) 2: reml: Max iterations exceeded in: remlscore(y, X, Z) 3: reml: Max iterations exceeded in: remlscore(y, X, Z) > Point 2 Two groups (G1 and G2) with two tissues examined for each > results <- decideTests(fit, method="nestedF") > summary(results) g1-g2 t1-t2 g1t2 - g2t2 g1t1-g2t1 -1 29 936 30 14 0 17866 16356 17861 17891 1 60 663 64 50 > topTable(fit3, coef=1, adjust="fdr") > topTable(fit3, coef=1, adjust="fdr") Status M A t P.Value B 15540 gene 0.4363826 8.514271 5.138324 0.6918086 -1.734635 10050 gene -0.3957220 9.904263 -4.802365 0.6918086 -1.936940 13504 gene 0.4280439 8.957909 4.492316 0.6918086 -2.136429 9953 gene 0.3380621 8.555516 4.486686 0.6918086 -2.140164 3266 gene 0.4737100 6.280065 4.478957 0.6918086 -2.145299 5596 gene 0.3738408 8.360172 4.327564 0.6918086 -2.247386 18159 gene -0.3860020 6.880403 -4.272878 0.6918086 -2.284962 6550 gene 0.4545545 7.901485 4.258022 0.6918086 -2.295233 8589 gene -0.4707301 7.850181 -4.227162 0.6918086 -2.316657 10149 gene 0.3387359 9.005838 4.216223 0.6918086 -2.324278
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>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:08:55 -0700 >From: Brett Abrahams <bsa@ucla.edu> >Subject: [BioC] Single Channel Analysis in Limma using lmscFit >To: bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > >Hello, > >I would like to use limma to carry out single channel analyses on some two >color data (to address comparisons that can't be made with standard methods >and my unconnected experimental design). I'm able to get two color analyses >to work nicely but run into problems when I try to run the single channel >analysis using the 'lmscFit' function (as described in the March 9 2005 >user's guide) . > >Everything seems to work fine until I run 'intraspotCorrelation' which >results in a number of errors (see Point 1 below for input/output). These are not "errors". They are warnings. > I've >looked into the versions of limma (Version: 1.8.22) and statmod (Version: >1.1.0) but this doesn't seem to be the answer as both are current. Any >thoughts on why these error messages are being generated and what I can do >to fix the problem would be much appreciated. Also, am I right in thinking >the 'reml' errors I get refer to problems with only single genes? I picked >this up from a previous post to the list but may have misinterpreted. > >If I ignore the errors and carry on with the analysis through to the >topTable I get more results that I can't understand (see Point 2 below >input/output). What's confusing me here is that although results from the >'decideTests' function seems to suggest that differentially expressed genes >are present within each of the four contrasts I've specified, only one of >the four corresponding topTables shows anything with significant p values. >Amongst the contrasts without significant differences most p values >are >0.5 and all B values are negative. Any clarification would be great. The help page for 'decideTests' says "The default settings with 'method="separate"' is equivalent to using 'topTable'" But you have specified the different 'method="nestedF". Gordon >Thanks in advance for this wonderful software and superb documentation / >support. > >Bret > >Point 1 > > corfit <- intraspotCorrelation(MA, design) > >Loading required package: statmod > >Attaching package 'statmod': > >The following object(s) are masked from package:limma : > >matvec vecmat > >Warning messages: > >1: reml: Max iterations exceeded in: remlscore(y, X, Z) >2: reml: Max iterations exceeded in: remlscore(y, X, Z) >3: reml: Max iterations exceeded in: remlscore(y, X, Z) > > > > >Point 2 > >Two groups (G1 and G2) with two tissues examined for each > > > results <- decideTests(fit, method="nestedF") > > > summary(results) >g1-g2 t1-t2 g1t2 - g2t2 g1t1-g2t1 >-1 29 936 30 14 >0 17866 16356 17861 17891 >1 60 663 64 50 > > > topTable(fit3, coef=1, adjust="fdr") > > topTable(fit3, coef=1, adjust="fdr") > > Status M A t P.Value B >15540 gene 0.4363826 8.514271 5.138324 0.6918086 -1.734635 >10050 gene -0.3957220 9.904263 -4.802365 0.6918086 -1.936940 >13504 gene 0.4280439 8.957909 4.492316 0.6918086 -2.136429 >9953 gene 0.3380621 8.555516 4.486686 0.6918086 -2.140164 >3266 gene 0.4737100 6.280065 4.478957 0.6918086 -2.145299 >5596 gene 0.3738408 8.360172 4.327564 0.6918086 -2.247386 >18159 gene -0.3860020 6.880403 -4.272878 0.6918086 -2.284962 >6550 gene 0.4545545 7.901485 4.258022 0.6918086 -2.295233 >8589 gene -0.4707301 7.850181 -4.227162 0.6918086 -2.316657 >10149 gene 0.3387359 9.005838 4.216223 0.6918086 -2.324278
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