limma: positive correlation for dyeswap pairs
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Naomi Altman ★ 6.0k
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I have 4 arrays in technical replicate dyeswap pairs. Using duplicateCorrelation (LIMMA) I got a positive correlation for the consensus correlation and I cannot understand how this is possible. There is really no evidence of dye-bias. But 13% of the noncontrol spots have correlation higher than 0.9. I have done extensive QC on these arrays, and I am happy with the quality of the data. I have attached a plot of one of the dyeswap pairs. The left panel is M array 1 vs. M array 2. The highly correlated spots are indicated in red. The right panel is A array 1 vs A array 2. The histogram is the value of A for the highly correlated spots on array 1. The correlation is even higher if I pair the wrong set of arrays together i.e. the correct blocking is 1,1,2,2 but if I put in 1,2,2,1 for the blocks, 20% of the spots have correlation higher than 0.9. If anyone has any ideas, I would be happy to hear them. The only thing I can think of is dye bias. Naomi S. Altman 814-865-3791 (voice) Associate Professor Bioinformatics Consulting Center Dept. of Statistics 814-863-7114 (fax) Penn State University 814-865-1348 (Statistics) University Park, PA 16802-2111
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My plots were not attached to the previous message. The plots shows one of the 2 biological replicates. The dye-swap technical replicates are plotted against one another. 13% of the genes have correlation greater than 0.9, as computed by duplicateCorrelation. Naomi S. Altman 814-865-3791 (voice) Associate Professor Bioinformatics Consulting Center Dept. of Statistics 814-863-7114 (fax) Penn State University 814-865-1348 (Statistics) University Park, PA 16802-2111 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Correlation.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 23211 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioconductor/attachments/20050803 /e401e487/Correlation.pdf
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The cause of the positive correlation among the dye-swap technical replicates appears to be a huge amount of dye bias, which appears to have been due to a poor labeling reaction in one channel. A dye-swap pair with similar plant material and a fresh labeling kit did not exhibit this dye bias. --Naomi At 04:51 PM 8/3/2005, Naomi Altman wrote: >My plots were not attached to the previous message. > >The plots shows one of the 2 biological replicates. The dye-swap >technical replicates are plotted against one another. 13% of the genes >have correlation greater than 0.9, as computed by duplicateCorrelation. > >Naomi S. Altman 814-865-3791 (voice) >Associate Professor >Bioinformatics Consulting Center >Dept. of Statistics 814-863-7114 (fax) >Penn State University 814-865-1348 (Statistics) >University Park, PA 16802-2111 > > >_______________________________________________ >Bioconductor mailing list >Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor Naomi S. Altman 814-865-3791 (voice) Associate Professor Bioinformatics Consulting Center Dept. of Statistics 814-863-7114 (fax) Penn State University 814-865-1348 (Statistics) University Park, PA 16802-2111
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