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Julien Roux ▴ 90
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Hi list, When using MAS5 detection calls in affymetrix chips, the assumption is that the MM probes give a reasonable estimate of background. If we normalize affy chips with RMA, MM probes are not used. In similar way, I was wondering if another method was available to estimate the presence/absence of genes without teh use of MM probes? I think this would be feasible since RMA estimates the parameters of the background distribution (bg.parameters), I just don't really know how to handle this... Thanks a lot for your help Julien -- Julien Roux, PhD student http://www.unil.ch/dee/page22707.html Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore, University of Lausanne, 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland tel: +41 21 692 4221 fax: +41 21 692 4165
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Samuel Wuest ▴ 30
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Julien, There are indeed alternatives to the MAS5 present/absent call method, but only with some limitations: a) Half-Price method, please refer to Wu et al, 2005 (see below). The method is using only PM probe signals, but you will have to ask the authors for the script, there is no package available for the tool; or, alternaltively, make your own with the idea that the authors mention... b) PANP ? present/absent calls with negative probesets, please refer to Warren et al (2007), or the Bioconductor package PANP The method is only available for the Affymetrix HG-U133 series, but personally, I have modified it for the Arabidopsis ATH1 array and it performs very well on my data... PANP can be used with different preprocessing methods of your choice, but everything is nicely described in the reference. Beside that, there is no alternative that I would know of, but maybe other from the list would have suggestions? Best, Sam References: Zhijin Wu and Rafael A. Irizarry, "A Statistical Framework for the Analysis of Microarray Probe-Level Data" (March 2005). Johns Hopkins University, Dept. of Biostatistics Working Papers. Working Paper 73. http://www.bepress.com/jhubiostat/paper73 Warren, P., Bienkowska, J., Martini, P., Jackson, J., and Taylor, D., PANP - a New Method of Gene Detection on Oligonucleotide Expression Arrays (2007), under review, www.people.brandeis.edu/~dtaylor/Taylor_Papers/BIBE07_PANP.pdf or the Bioconductor Vignette for the PANP package www.bioconductor.org) ------------------------------------------------------ Wuest Samuel Smurfit Institute of Genetics Trinity College Dublin Dublin 2, Ireland Phone: +353-1-896 2444 Mobile: + 353-85-735 5821 Email: wuests at tcd.ie ------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:11:17 +0100 Julien Roux <julien.roux at="" unil.ch=""> wrote: > Hi list, > > When using MAS5 detection calls in affymetrix chips, the assumption is > that the MM probes give a reasonable estimate of background. If we > normalize affy chips with RMA, MM probes are not used. > In similar way, I was wondering if another method was available to > estimate the presence/absence of genes without teh use of MM probes? > > I think this would be feasible since RMA estimates the parameters of the > background distribution (bg.parameters), I just don't really know how to > handle this... > Thanks a lot for your help > Julien > > -- > Julien Roux, PhD student > http://www.unil.ch/dee/page22707.html > Department of Ecology and Evolution > Biophore, University of Lausanne, 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland > tel: +41 21 692 4221 fax: +41 21 692 4165 > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: >http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor
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