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Tarca, Adi ▴ 570
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Hi all, Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but they no not recognize the IDs on this array. Thanks, Adi Tarca
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Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi all, > > Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? > I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but they > no not recognize the IDs on this array. > > Thanks, > > Adi Tarca > If you need an annotation package other than the ones we provide, you can use the SQLForge function in AnnotationDbi to quickly make one. All you need is the IDs that you want to use paired up with some standard ID type (entrez gene, unigene, refseq etc.) in a tab delimited format and you can make your own annotation package on any of the supported organisms (human, rat mouse etc.). You can see the vignette here for more information: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/2.2/bioc/html/AnnotationDbi.html Marc
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Thanks Marc, I created the packed using SQLForge. It was really helpful your advice. Regards, Adi -----Original Message----- From: Marc Carlson [mailto:mcarlson@fhcrc.org] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:17 PM To: Tarca, Adi Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi all, > > Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? > I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but they > no not recognize the IDs on this array. > > Thanks, > > Adi Tarca > If you need an annotation package other than the ones we provide, you can use the SQLForge function in AnnotationDbi to quickly make one. All you need is the IDs that you want to use paired up with some standard ID type (entrez gene, unigene, refseq etc.) in a tab delimited format and you can make your own annotation package on any of the supported organisms (human, rat mouse etc.). You can see the vignette here for more information: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/2.2/bioc/html/AnnotationDbi.html Marc
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The illumina annotation packages use the probe ID rather than the target id output by illumina's analysis software. If you use the .txt or .csv files output by the scanner, you will have probe IDs that match the existing annotation packages. Lynn Amon Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi all, > > Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? > I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but they > no not recognize the IDs on this array. > > Thanks, > > Adi Tarca > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >
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Hi Lynn, I am aware that these packges work with probe IDs and not with target IDs. However there are probe IDs on the HumanRef-8_V3 that could not be found in either two packages lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db. e.g: > x<-illuminaHumanv3ProbeIDSYMBOL > aT1$Symbol<-as.vector(unlist( as.list(x[aT1$ID]) )) Error in .checkKeys(value, Lkeys(x), x at ifnotfound) : value for "6250095" not found However I was able to build my own annotation package using makeHUMANCHIP_DB function. Thanks, Adi -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon@fhcrc.org] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:55 PM To: Tarca, Adi Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 The illumina annotation packages use the probe ID rather than the target id output by illumina's analysis software. If you use the .txt or .csv files output by the scanner, you will have probe IDs that match the existing annotation packages. Lynn Amon Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi all, > > Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? > I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but they > no not recognize the IDs on this array. > > Thanks, > > Adi Tarca > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >
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Hi Adi, That issue wasn't clear from your first email. If probe IDs are missing, that is a bug. I don't see ProbeID = 6250095 anywhere in the illumina annotation package for Human v3. I do find it in the Mouse v2 array though. What accession id did you find for it? Can you send me a list of probe IDs that are missing. I don't have any V3 arrays to test. Thanks, Lynn Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi Lynn, > I am aware that these packges work with probe IDs and not with target > IDs. However there are probe IDs on the HumanRef-8_V3 that could not be > found in either two packages lumiHumanAll.db and > illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db. > > e.g: > >> x<-illuminaHumanv3ProbeIDSYMBOL >> aT1$Symbol<-as.vector(unlist( as.list(x[aT1$ID]) )) >> > Error in .checkKeys(value, Lkeys(x), x at ifnotfound) : > value for "6250095" not found > > However I was able to build my own annotation package using > makeHUMANCHIP_DB function. > > Thanks, > Adi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon at fhcrc.org] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:55 PM > To: Tarca, Adi > Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 > > The illumina annotation packages use the probe ID rather than the target > > id output by illumina's analysis software. If you use the .txt or .csv > files output by the scanner, you will have probe IDs that match the > existing annotation packages. > Lynn Amon > > > Tarca, Adi wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? >> I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but >> > they > >> no not recognize the IDs on this array. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Adi Tarca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >> >> > > >
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Hi Lynn, As I said in the first e-mail, the array is HumanRef-8_V3 array. This is an array with 8 slots for 8 different samples. According to the HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.bgx from Illumina for this chip, this probe has "TXN" as gene symbol and is called Thioredoxin mRNA. The accession is NM_003329.1 It is true though that it has a missing Entrez ID. I will send you an array so you can look at it. Regards, Adi -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon@fhcrc.org] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:44 PM To: Tarca, Adi Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 Hi Adi, That issue wasn't clear from your first email. If probe IDs are missing, that is a bug. I don't see ProbeID = 6250095 anywhere in the illumina annotation package for Human v3. I do find it in the Mouse v2 array though. What accession id did you find for it? Can you send me a list of probe IDs that are missing. I don't have any V3 arrays to test. Thanks, Lynn Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi Lynn, > I am aware that these packges work with probe IDs and not with target > IDs. However there are probe IDs on the HumanRef-8_V3 that could not be > found in either two packages lumiHumanAll.db and > illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db. > > e.g: > >> x<-illuminaHumanv3ProbeIDSYMBOL >> aT1$Symbol<-as.vector(unlist( as.list(x[aT1$ID]) )) >> > Error in .checkKeys(value, Lkeys(x), x at ifnotfound) : > value for "6250095" not found > > However I was able to build my own annotation package using > makeHUMANCHIP_DB function. > > Thanks, > Adi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon at fhcrc.org] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:55 PM > To: Tarca, Adi > Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 > > The illumina annotation packages use the probe ID rather than the target > > id output by illumina's analysis software. If you use the .txt or .csv > files output by the scanner, you will have probe IDs that match the > existing annotation packages. > Lynn Amon > > > Tarca, Adi wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? >> I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but >> > they > >> no not recognize the IDs on this array. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Adi Tarca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >> >> > > >
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Hmmm... There seems to be a difference with the .bgx files and .txt files on the illumina.com site. In HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.txt there is no probe ID 6250095 but there is such a probe on MouseRef-8_V2_0_R0_11278551_A.txt (gene = LOC654426). The probe ID for TXN in HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.txt is 4290543. I don't have access to a conversion tool for the bgx files. Would anyone be willing to take a look at the differences between bgx and txt files? Lynn Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi Lynn, > > As I said in the first e-mail, the array is HumanRef-8_V3 array. This is > an array with 8 slots for 8 different samples. > According to the HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.bgx from Illumina for > this chip, this probe has "TXN" as gene symbol and is called Thioredoxin > mRNA. The accession is NM_003329.1 > It is true though that it has a missing Entrez ID. I will send you an > array so you can look at it. > > > Regards, > Adi > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon at fhcrc.org] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:44 PM > To: Tarca, Adi > Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 > > Hi Adi, > That issue wasn't clear from your first email. If probe IDs are > missing, that is a bug. I don't see ProbeID = 6250095 anywhere in the > illumina annotation package for Human v3. I do find it in the Mouse v2 > array though. What accession id did you find for it? Can you send me a > > list of probe IDs that are missing. I don't have any V3 arrays to test. > Thanks, > Lynn > > > Tarca, Adi wrote: > >> Hi Lynn, >> I am aware that these packges work with probe IDs and not with target >> IDs. However there are probe IDs on the HumanRef-8_V3 that could not >> > be > >> found in either two packages lumiHumanAll.db and >> illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db. >> >> e.g: >> >> >>> x<-illuminaHumanv3ProbeIDSYMBOL >>> aT1$Symbol<-as.vector(unlist( as.list(x[aT1$ID]) )) >>> >>> >> Error in .checkKeys(value, Lkeys(x), x at ifnotfound) : >> value for "6250095" not found >> >> However I was able to build my own annotation package using >> makeHUMANCHIP_DB function. >> >> Thanks, >> Adi >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon at fhcrc.org] >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:55 PM >> To: Tarca, Adi >> Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 >> >> The illumina annotation packages use the probe ID rather than the >> > target > >> id output by illumina's analysis software. If you use the .txt or >> > .csv > >> files output by the scanner, you will have probe IDs that match the >> existing annotation packages. >> Lynn Amon >> >> >> Tarca, Adi wrote: >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? >>> I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but >>> >>> >> they >> >> >>> no not recognize the IDs on this array. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Adi Tarca >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bioconductor mailing list >>> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >>> Search the archives: >>> >>> >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
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Yes, there are a few differences between these 2 files. There are 5 probes in the bgx version that are not in the txt version of the HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963 manifest. > length(intersect(fromBGX$ProbeID, fromTXT$Array_Address_Id)) [1] 24526 > setdiff(fromBGX$ProbeID, fromTXT$Array_Address_Id) [1] 2230095 290491 450670 5360291 6250095 > setdiff(fromTXT$Array_Address_Id,fromBGX$ProbeID) integer(0) Adi -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon@fhcrc.org] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:22 PM To: Tarca, Adi Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 Hmmm... There seems to be a difference with the .bgx files and .txt files on the illumina.com site. In HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.txt there is no probe ID 6250095 but there is such a probe on MouseRef-8_V2_0_R0_11278551_A.txt (gene = LOC654426). The probe ID for TXN in HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.txt is 4290543. I don't have access to a conversion tool for the bgx files. Would anyone be willing to take a look at the differences between bgx and txt files? Lynn Tarca, Adi wrote: > Hi Lynn, > > As I said in the first e-mail, the array is HumanRef-8_V3 array. This is > an array with 8 slots for 8 different samples. > According to the HumanRef-8_V3_0_R0_11282963_A.bgx from Illumina for > this chip, this probe has "TXN" as gene symbol and is called Thioredoxin > mRNA. The accession is NM_003329.1 > It is true though that it has a missing Entrez ID. I will send you an > array so you can look at it. > > > Regards, > Adi > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon at fhcrc.org] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:44 PM > To: Tarca, Adi > Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 > > Hi Adi, > That issue wasn't clear from your first email. If probe IDs are > missing, that is a bug. I don't see ProbeID = 6250095 anywhere in the > illumina annotation package for Human v3. I do find it in the Mouse v2 > array though. What accession id did you find for it? Can you send me a > > list of probe IDs that are missing. I don't have any V3 arrays to test. > Thanks, > Lynn > > > Tarca, Adi wrote: > >> Hi Lynn, >> I am aware that these packges work with probe IDs and not with target >> IDs. However there are probe IDs on the HumanRef-8_V3 that could not >> > be > >> found in either two packages lumiHumanAll.db and >> illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db. >> >> e.g: >> >> >>> x<-illuminaHumanv3ProbeIDSYMBOL >>> aT1$Symbol<-as.vector(unlist( as.list(x[aT1$ID]) )) >>> >>> >> Error in .checkKeys(value, Lkeys(x), x at ifnotfound) : >> value for "6250095" not found >> >> However I was able to build my own annotation package using >> makeHUMANCHIP_DB function. >> >> Thanks, >> Adi >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lynn Amon [mailto:lamon at fhcrc.org] >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:55 PM >> To: Tarca, Adi >> Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> Subject: Re: [BioC] HumanRef-8_V3 >> >> The illumina annotation packages use the probe ID rather than the >> > target > >> id output by illumina's analysis software. If you use the .txt or >> > .csv > >> files output by the scanner, you will have probe IDs that match the >> existing annotation packages. >> Lynn Amon >> >> >> Tarca, Adi wrote: >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Did anyone make a package for the Illumina HumanRef-8_V3 array? >>> I have tried both lumiHumanAll.db and illuminaHumanv3ProbeID.db but >>> >>> >> they >> >> >>> no not recognize the IDs on this array. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Adi Tarca >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bioconductor mailing list >>> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >>> Search the archives: >>> >>> >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
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