Sheep samples measured with a Affymetrix bovine array
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Hi all! I'm currently facing a for me challenging job since I'm not an expert in microarray analysis and hope to get here some advice for my data analysis. I have to evaluate the data quality of sheep samples that have been measured on a Affymetrix bovine chip. Meaning, what are the over-/underexpressed genes from the sheep and how likely are those the right ones. Therefore, my first idea was to make a sequence match of the probe sequence or the gene associated to the probe on the sheep genome to get the gene of the sheep sticking to the probe. NCBI provides therefore the "cross-species megaBLAST" algorithm but it would be a daunting job. Is there a simple way to perform such an anlysis with bioconductor? Or is there a better way to get a result for my job? Thanks. --
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HiCan you describe to me your "first idea" in simpler terms - what do you expect the outcome to be? I kind of get what you want to know. I may have done something like what you are interested but just want to know for certain. Thanks BALA. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Mattias Bair <mattias.bair@gmx.at> wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm currently facing a for me challenging job since I'm not an expert in > microarray analysis and hope to get here some advice for my data analysis. I > have to evaluate the data quality of sheep samples that have been measured > on a Affymetrix bovine chip. Meaning, what are the over-/underexpressed > genes from the sheep and how likely are those the right ones. Therefore, my > first idea was to make a sequence match of the probe sequence or the gene > associated to the probe on the sheep genome to get the gene of the sheep > sticking to the probe. NCBI provides therefore the "cross-species megaBLAST" > algorithm but it would be a daunting job. Is there a simple way to perform > such an anlysis with bioconductor? Or is there a better way to get a result > for my job? > > Thanks. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Hi BALA! My first idea was to get the gene name of the over- or underexpressed probes with the bovineACCNUM map of the bovine.db package and use those names to make a query with following tool http://www.ncbi.nlm.ni h.gov/genome/seq/BlastGen/BlastGen.cgi?taxid=9940&db=oar_refm&pgm=xmbn &EXPECT=2&DESCRIPTIONS=3&ALIGNMENTS=3&OTHER_ADVANCED=-G%205%20-E%202 Another idea was to get the probe sequences with, e.g. bovineprobe$sequence[bovineprobe$Probe.Set.Name == "Bt.9985.1.S1_at"] from the bovineprobe package and use those sequences to make the same query as above. But since the over- and underexpressed genes are a lot it would be a little bit time consuming to make all the queries per hand. Do you have an idea how to solve this problem or do you have a better strategy to get a value how valid the results are for the sheep samples? Thanks. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:52:03 -0600 > Von: Balasubramanian Ganesan <bala.g at="" aggiemail.usu.edu=""> > An: Mattias Bair <mattias.bair at="" gmx.at=""> > CC: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > Betreff: Re: [BioC] Sheep samples measured with a Affymetrix bovine array > HiCan you describe to me your "first idea" in simpler terms - what do you > expect the outcome to be? I kind of get what you want to know. I may have > done something like what you are interested but just want to know for > certain. > Thanks > BALA. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Mattias Bair <mattias.bair at="" gmx.at=""> > wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm currently facing a for me challenging job since I'm not an expert in > > microarray analysis and hope to get here some advice for my data > analysis. I > > have to evaluate the data quality of sheep samples that have been > measured > > on a Affymetrix bovine chip. Meaning, what are the over-/underexpressed > > genes from the sheep and how likely are those the right ones. Therefore, > my > > first idea was to make a sequence match of the probe sequence or the > gene > > associated to the probe on the sheep genome to get the gene of the sheep > > sticking to the probe. NCBI provides therefore the "cross-species > megaBLAST" > > algorithm but it would be a daunting job. Is there a simple way to > perform > > such an anlysis with bioconductor? Or is there a better way to get a > result > > for my job? > > > > Thanks. > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bioconductor mailing list > > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > > Search the archives: > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > --
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On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Mattias Bair <mattias.bair@gmx.at> wrote: > Hi BALA! > > My first idea was to get the gene name of the over- or underexpressed > probes with the bovineACCNUM map of the bovine.db package and use those > names to make a query with following tool > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genome/seq/BlastGen/BlastGen.cgi?taxid=9 940&db=oar_refm&pgm=xmbn&EXPECT=2&DESCRIPTIONS=3&ALIGNMENTS=3&OTHER_AD VANCED=-G%205%20-E%202 > > Another idea was to get the probe sequences with, e.g. > > bovineprobe$sequence[bovineprobe$Probe.Set.Name == "Bt.9985.1.S1_at"] > > from the bovineprobe package and use those sequences to make the same query > as above. But since the over- and underexpressed genes are a lot it would be > a little bit time consuming to make all the queries per hand. Do you have an > idea how to solve this problem or do you have a better strategy to get a > value how valid the results are for the sheep samples? > For doing alignments, you will probably want to do this locally on your machine. You can download blast, blat, gmap, or any of a number of alignment programs. Then, you will need the probe sequences, which you have. Finally, you will need the transcriptome to which you want to align, typically in fasta format. Run the alignments using the chosen software. Then, you will need to postprocess your results. Finally, you may need to make an alternative CDF for the array based on the alignments. What I have described is NOT a trivial task and may require a bioinformatics collaboration. Finally, what I have described is just to annotate the arrays for sheep. Determining the meaning of the data would be a second step. Sean > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:52:03 -0600 > > Von: Balasubramanian Ganesan <bala.g@aggiemail.usu.edu> > > An: Mattias Bair <mattias.bair@gmx.at> > > CC: bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > > Betreff: Re: [BioC] Sheep samples measured with a Affymetrix bovine array > > > HiCan you describe to me your "first idea" in simpler terms - what do you > > expect the outcome to be? I kind of get what you want to know. I may have > > done something like what you are interested but just want to know for > > certain. > > Thanks > > BALA. > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Mattias Bair <mattias.bair@gmx.at> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > I'm currently facing a for me challenging job since I'm not an expert > in > > > microarray analysis and hope to get here some advice for my data > > analysis. I > > > have to evaluate the data quality of sheep samples that have been > > measured > > > on a Affymetrix bovine chip. Meaning, what are the over-/underexpressed > > > genes from the sheep and how likely are those the right ones. > Therefore, > > my > > > first idea was to make a sequence match of the probe sequence or the > > gene > > > associated to the probe on the sheep genome to get the gene of the > sheep > > > sticking to the probe. NCBI provides therefore the "cross- species > > megaBLAST" > > > algorithm but it would be a daunting job. Is there a simple way to > > perform > > > such an anlysis with bioconductor? Or is there a better way to get a > > result > > > for my job? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bioconductor mailing list > > > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > > > Search the archives: > > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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