running MBEI (PM-MM) using expresso
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Hi all, The MBEI method has two versions: PM-only and PM-MM. PM-only model performs no background correction, Invariant Set for normalization, PM only for PM correction and the Multiplicative Model for summarization. Using expresso: eset<-expresso(affyBatch,bgcorrect.method="none",normalize.method="inv ariantset", pmcorrect.method="pmonly",summary.method="liwong") But, what is the expresso command for the PM-MM model? Thanks in advance, Javier
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Hi Javier, Javier P?rez Florido wrote: > Hi all, > > The MBEI method has two versions: PM-only and PM-MM. > PM-only model performs no background correction, Invariant Set for > normalization, PM only for PM correction and the Multiplicative Model > for summarization. Using expresso: > eset<-expresso(affyBatch,bgcorrect.method="none",normalize.method="i nvariantset", > pmcorrect.method="pmonly",summary.method="liwong") > > But, what is the expresso command for the PM-MM model? pmcorrect.method = "subtractmm" > pmcorrect.methods() [1] "mas" "methods" "pmonly" "subtractmm" [5] "orrect.methods" Best, Jim > > Thanks in advance, > Javier > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor -- James W. MacDonald, M.S. Biostatistician Douglas Lab University of Michigan Department of Human Genetics 5912 Buhl 1241 E. Catherine St. Ann Arbor MI 48109-5618 734-615-7826
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Thanks Jim, but, what is the method to be used in the background correction? I have read that in this step (background) the MM intensities are substracted. Thanks again, Javier James W. MacDonald escribi?: > Hi Javier, > > Javier P?rez Florido wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The MBEI method has two versions: PM-only and PM-MM. >> PM-only model performs no background correction, Invariant Set for >> normalization, PM only for PM correction and the Multiplicative Model >> for summarization. Using expresso: >> eset<-expresso(affyBatch,bgcorrect.method="none",normalize.method=" invariantset", >> pmcorrect.method="pmonly",summary.method="liwong") >> >> But, what is the expresso command for the PM-MM model? > > pmcorrect.method = "subtractmm" > > > pmcorrect.methods() > [1] "mas" "methods" "pmonly" "subtractmm" > [5] "orrect.methods" > > > Best, > > Jim > > >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Javier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >
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Hi Javier, Javier P?rez Florido wrote: > Thanks Jim, but, what is the method to be used in the background > correction? I have read that in this step (background) the MM > intensities are substracted. This is just a question of semantics. What you want is for the MBEI method to be fit on the PM-MM data - does it really matter if you say "I'm going to subtract MM from PM as a background correction." or if you say "I'm going to subtract MM from PM as a PM correction method."? In the end you have done the same thing. Best, Jim > Thanks again, > Javier > > > James W. MacDonald escribi?: >> Hi Javier, >> >> Javier P?rez Florido wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The MBEI method has two versions: PM-only and PM-MM. >>> PM-only model performs no background correction, Invariant Set for >>> normalization, PM only for PM correction and the Multiplicative Model >>> for summarization. Using expresso: >>> eset<-expresso(affyBatch,bgcorrect.method="none",normalize.method= "invariantset", >>> pmcorrect.method="pmonly",summary.method="liwong") >>> >>> But, what is the expresso command for the PM-MM model? >> >> pmcorrect.method = "subtractmm" >> >> > pmcorrect.methods() >> [1] "mas" "methods" "pmonly" "subtractmm" >> [5] "orrect.methods" >> >> >> Best, >> >> Jim >> >> >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Javier >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bioconductor mailing list >>> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >>> Search the archives: >>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor -- James W. MacDonald, M.S. Biostatistician Douglas Lab University of Michigan Department of Human Genetics 5912 Buhl 1241 E. Catherine St. Ann Arbor MI 48109-5618 734-615-7826
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That's OK Thanks Jim, Javier James W. MacDonald escribi?: > Hi Javier, > > Javier P?rez Florido wrote: >> Thanks Jim, but, what is the method to be used in the background >> correction? I have read that in this step (background) the MM >> intensities are substracted. > > This is just a question of semantics. What you want is for the MBEI > method to be fit on the PM-MM data - does it really matter if you say > "I'm going to subtract MM from PM as a background correction." or if > you say "I'm going to subtract MM from PM as a PM correction method."? > > In the end you have done the same thing. > > Best, > > Jim > > >> Thanks again, >> Javier >> >> >> James W. MacDonald escribi?: >>> Hi Javier, >>> >>> Javier P?rez Florido wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The MBEI method has two versions: PM-only and PM-MM. >>>> PM-only model performs no background correction, Invariant Set for >>>> normalization, PM only for PM correction and the Multiplicative >>>> Model for summarization. Using expresso: >>>> eset<-expresso(affyBatch,bgcorrect.method="none",normalize.method ="invariantset", >>>> pmcorrect.method="pmonly",summary.method="liwong") >>>> >>>> But, what is the expresso command for the PM-MM model? >>> >>> pmcorrect.method = "subtractmm" >>> >>> > pmcorrect.methods() >>> [1] "mas" "methods" "pmonly" "subtractmm" >>> [5] "orrect.methods" >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> Javier >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bioconductor mailing list >>>> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >>>> Search the archives: >>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >
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