GEOquery, GSEMatrix parameter and lifecycle of GEO series data
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Dear Sean and James, first of all, I would like to apologize for my late reply. There were a lot of storms yesterday here at Oviedo, and a lot of derived technical problems at my workplace which kept me from accessing the net. Thank you for your kind replies. Having read James' answer, I tried to replicate again the problematic commands: > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534', destdir='/Users/gbayon/Documents/GEO/') Using locally cached version of GPL13534 found here: /Users/gbayon/Documents/GEO//GPL13534.soft > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl)) [1] FALSE > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count [1] "485577" > nrow(Table(gpl)) [1] 143889 > sessionInfo() R version 2.15.0 (2012-03-30) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0/x86_64 (64-bit) locale: [1] es_ES.UTF-8/es_ES.UTF-8/es_ES.UTF-8/C/es_ES.UTF-8/es_ES.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base other attached packages: [1] GEOquery_2.23.5 Biobase_2.16.0 BiocGenerics_0.2.0 loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] RCurl_1.91-1 XML_3.9-4 As you can see, the problem was still there. GEOquery, Biobase and BioCGenerics versions are the same than in James' case. R version is 2.15.0 instead of 2.15.1. I see James has executed getGEO() directly, while I employed a cached version of the SOFT file. So, I decided to run previous commands again, but forcing the download: > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534') File stored at: /var/folders/rs/6p03vvrs5xjcts16s73025lm0000gn/T//RtmpTSHxXq/GPL13534. soft > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl)) [1] TRUE > nrow(Table(gpl)) [1] 485577 oO. Now it worked. In order to find if there was any problem with the cached version on disk, I then tried to replicate the experiment again, but this time using the temporary folder soft file. > gpl2 <- getGEO('GPL13534',destdir='/var/folders/rs/6p03vvrs5xjcts16s 73025lm0000gn/T//RtmpTSHxXq/') Using locally cached version of GPL13534 found here: /var/folders/rs/6p03vvrs5xjcts16s73025lm0000gn/T//RtmpTSHxXq//GPL13534 .soft > Meta(gpl2)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl2)) [1] TRUE Ok. Now it worked smoothly. It seems that my cached version could be corrupted. Let me see: gbayon$ ls -lh total 538984 -rw-r--r-- 1 gbayon staff 203M 28 jun 15:53 GPL13534.soft -rw-r--r-- 1 gbayon staff 60M 28 jun 15:54 GPL13534_prev.soft OMG you are going to kill me? that difference in size? :-O gbayon$ tail -n 1 GPL13534.soft !platform_table_end gbayon$ tail -n 1 GPL13534_prev.soft cg05516328 cg05516328 21692480 ATTCACCAAATAACCTAACAAAATAATCACAAAACACAAAACTCAAAAAC II GCTCTGCTGTCCCGAG CCACTCATGGTGAGCTGCCTCCCTACGAATTCCAGCCGCTGTCG[CG]CCCTTGAGTTCTGTGTCCTGTG ACCACCTTGCCAGGCCACTTGGTGAACACGC Now it makes sense. It seems the cached file I had was not complete. Maybe due to a broken or timed out connection. getGEO() read exactly the number of probes it had, no more, no less. I am sorry for wasting your time chasing a GEOquery bug that finally did not exist. Maybe, just a suggestion, it would be nice if it could write a warning message or something if it did not find the '!platform_table_end' string. Just in case another newbie arrives to the same point. Thank you again for your hints. And for the new, corrected, GPL data I have now. Regards, Gus --------------------------- Enviado con Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) El mi?rcoles 27 de junio de 2012 a las 21:18, Sean Davis escribi?: > Thanks, James, for doing my work for me. ; ) > > Sean > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, James F. Reid <reidjf at="" gmail.com="" (mailto:reidjf="" at="" gmail.com)=""> wrote: > > Dear Sean and Gustavo, > > > > > > I cannot reproduce this error. See below. > > > > On 27/06/12 16:54, Sean Davis wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Gustavo Fern??ndez Bay??n > > > <gbayon at="" gmail.com="" (mailto:gbayon="" at="" gmail.com)="">wrote: > > > > > > > Hi again. > > > > > > > > I would like to add a little bit more of information on this issue. I have > > > > been debugging inside the parseGSEMatrix() function in GEOquery source > > > > code. The suspicious NA's appeared when execution arrived to the following > > > > line: > > > > > > > > ## Apparently, NCBI GEO uses case-insensitive matching > > > > ## between platform IDs and series ID Refs ??? > > > > dat <- dat[match(tolower(rownames(datamat)),tolower(rownames(dat))),] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem here is that 'datamat' has the correct number of rows, which > > > > is around 480K, BUT 'dat' doesn't. At a glance, 'datamat' comes from the > > > > series matrix file while 'dat' comes from the GPL. > > > > > > > > If you go to the GEO page of that GPL ( > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/query/acc.cgi?token=djaxxiayqm wyspu&acc=GPL13534), > > > > you'll find it says that the GPL decryption table has exactly 485577 rows, > > > > which is kind of logical, a description for each probeset. However, inside > > > > the code, 'dat' has only 143889 rows. > > > > > > > > Replicating directly from R console: > > > > > > > > > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534',destdir='../../GEO/') > > > > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count > > > > > > > > [1] "485577" > > > > > > > > > t <- Table(gpl) > > > > > dim(t) > > > > > > > > [1] 143889 37 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was really surprised to find this, and I do not have enough knowledge as > > > > to know if it responds to an unknown constraint I happen to ignore. Is that > > > > ok? Or is there any bug in the GPL processing code? Now I'm going home, but > > > > I'll try to continue debugging to see what is really happening inside. > > > > > > This is most likely a bug in GPL parsing. There are A LOT of edge cases > > > that I have tried to deal with, some not very appropriately. Often, the > > > error is due to an extraneous quote in an unexpected location. I'll look > > > into this one. Could you do me a favor and send along sessionInfo() just > > > so I know? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be very much appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Enviado con Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) > > > > > > > > > > > > El mi??rcoles 27 de junio de 2012 a las 10:51, Gustavo Fern??ndez Bay??n > > > > escribi??: > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody. > > > > > > > > > > I am experiencing quite a few problems while trying to download and > > > > parse a dataset of methylation values. These are not technical problems, > > > > IMHO. GEOquery works perfectly, and it really makes getting this kind of > > > > data an easy task. However, I think I do not understand exactly the > > > > lifecycle of GEO series data, and I would like to ask in this list for any > > > > hint on this behavior, so I could try to fix it. > > > > > > > > > > What I first did was to download and parse the desired GSE data file, > > > > with the default value of GSMMatrix parameter (TRUE). Besides, I extracted > > > > the ExpressionSet and the assayData I was looking for. > > > > > > > > > > my.gse <- getGEO('GSE30870', destdir='/Users/gbayon/Documents/GEO/') > > > > > my.expr.set <- my.gse[[1]] > > > > > beta.values <- exprs(my.expr.set) > > > > > > > > > > What really gave me a surprise at first, was to see many strange values > > > > (all containing the 'NA' string) in the featureNames of the expression set. > > > > > > > > > > > head(featureNames(es), n=20) > > > > > [1] "NA" "cg00000108" "cg00000109" "cg00000165" "NA.1" "NA.2" "NA.3" > > > > > [8] "NA.4" "cg00000363" "NA.5" "NA.6" "NA.7" "NA.8" "cg00000734" > > > > > [15] "NA.9" "cg00000807" "cg00000884" "NA.10" "NA.11" "NA.12" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I select an individual GSM in the series, and download it, the > > > > featureNames are ok. If I try to download the GSE with GSEMatrix=FALSE, I > > > > get a list of GSM data sets, and the results is again good. This made me > > > > suspect of the intermediate, pre-parsed, matrix form. I haven't found a > > > > clue about the lifecycle of this kind of data. I mean, how the matrix is > > > > built. Is it a manual process? Is it automatic? > > > > > > > > > > If it is a manual process, then I guess I will have to contact the > > > > responsible of uploading the data to see if they can fix it. But, if it is > > > > not, I would like to know if this is something relating to BioC or, more > > > > plausibly, to GEO. > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Gustavo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > Enviado con Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Bioconductor mailing list > > > > Bioconductor at r-project.org (mailto:Bioconductor at r-project.org) > > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > > > > Search the archives: > > > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bioconductor mailing list > > > Bioconductor at r-project.org (mailto:Bioconductor at r-project.org) > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > > > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > > > > > > library(GEOquery) > > > > my.gse <- getGEO('GSE30870', destdir=".") > > > > featureNames(my.gse[[1]])[1:10] > > # [1] "cg00000029" "cg00000108" "cg00000109" "cg00000165" "cg00000236" > > # [6] "cg00000289" "cg00000292" "cg00000321" "cg00000363" "cg00000622" > > all(featureNames(my.gse[[1]]) == rownames(exprs(my.gse[[1]]))) > > #[1] TRUE > > > > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534',destdir=".") > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl)) > > # [1] TRUE > > > > > > > sessionInfo() > > R version 2.15.1 (2012-06-22) > > Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit) > > > > locale: > > [1] LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=C > > [3] LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_GB.UTF-8 > > [5] LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.UTF-8 > > [7] LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C > > [9] LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C > > [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C > > > > attached base packages: > > [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets tools methods > > [8] base > > > > other attached packages: > > [1] GEOquery_2.23.5 Biobase_2.16.0 BiocGenerics_0.2.0 > > > > loaded via a namespace (and not attached): > > [1] RCurl_1.91-1 XML_3.9-4 > > > > > > HTH, > > J. >
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On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Gustavo Fernández Bayón <gbayon@gmail.com>wrote: > Dear Sean and James, > > first of all, I would like to apologize for my late reply. There were a > lot of storms yesterday here at Oviedo, and a lot of derived technical > problems at my workplace which kept me from accessing the net. > > Thank you for your kind replies. Having read James' answer, I tried to > replicate again the problematic commands: > > > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534', destdir='/Users/gbayon/Documents/GEO/') > Using locally cached version of GPL13534 found here: > /Users/gbayon/Documents/GEO//GPL13534.soft > > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl)) > [1] FALSE > > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count > [1] "485577" > > > nrow(Table(gpl)) > [1] 143889 > > > sessionInfo() > R version 2.15.0 (2012-03-30) > Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0/x86_64 (64-bit) > locale: > [1] es_ES.UTF-8/es_ES.UTF-8/es_ES.UTF-8/C/es_ES.UTF-8/es_ES.UTF-8 > attached base packages: > [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base > other attached packages: > [1] GEOquery_2.23.5 Biobase_2.16.0 BiocGenerics_0.2.0 > loaded via a namespace (and not attached): > [1] RCurl_1.91-1 XML_3.9-4 > > > > As you can see, the problem was still there. GEOquery, Biobase and > BioCGenerics versions are the same than in James' case. R version is 2.15.0 > instead of 2.15.1. I see James has executed getGEO() directly, while I > employed a cached version of the SOFT file. So, I decided to run previous > commands again, but forcing the download: > > > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534') > File stored at: > /var/folders/rs/6p03vvrs5xjcts16s73025lm0000gn/T//RtmpTSHxXq/GPL1353 4.soft > > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl)) > [1] TRUE > > > nrow(Table(gpl)) > [1] 485577 > > > > oO. Now it worked. In order to find if there was any problem with the > cached version on disk, I then tried to replicate the experiment again, but > this time using the temporary folder soft file. > > > gpl2 <- > getGEO('GPL13534',destdir='/var/folders/rs/6p03vvrs5xjcts16s73025lm0 000gn/T//RtmpTSHxXq/') > Using locally cached version of GPL13534 found here: > /var/folders/rs/6p03vvrs5xjcts16s73025lm0000gn/T//RtmpTSHxXq//GPL135 34.soft > > > Meta(gpl2)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl2)) > [1] TRUE > > > > Ok. Now it worked smoothly. It seems that my cached version could be > corrupted. Let me see: > > gbayon$ ls -lh > total 538984 > -rw-r--r-- 1 gbayon staff 203M 28 jun 15:53 GPL13534.soft > -rw-r--r-- 1 gbayon staff 60M 28 jun 15:54 GPL13534_prev.soft > > > > OMG you are going to kill me… that difference in size… :-O > > gbayon$ tail -n 1 GPL13534.soft > !platform_table_end > > gbayon$ tail -n 1 GPL13534_prev.soft > cg05516328 cg05516328 21692480 > ATTCACCAAATAACCTAACAAAATAATCACAAAACACAAAACTCAAAAAC II > GCTCTGCTGTCCCGAGCCACTCATGGTGAGCTGCCTCCCTACGAATTCCAGCCGCTGTCG[CG]CCCT TGAGTTCTGTGTCCTGTGACCACCTTGCCAGGCCACTTGGTGAACACGC > > > > Now it makes sense. It seems the cached file I had was not complete. Maybe > due to a broken or timed out connection. getGEO() read exactly the number > of probes it had, no more, no less. > > I am sorry for wasting your time chasing a GEOquery bug that finally did > not exist. Maybe, just a suggestion, it would be nice if it could write a > warning message or something if it did not find the '!platform_table_end' > string. Just in case another newbie arrives to the same point. > > Great suggestion. I'll add that to the todo list. Sean > Thank you again for your hints. And for the new, corrected, GPL data I > have now. > > Regards, > Gus > > > --------------------------- > Enviado con Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) > > > El miércoles 27 de junio de 2012 a las 21:18, Sean Davis escribió: > > > Thanks, James, for doing my work for me. ; ) > > > > Sean > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, James F. Reid <reidjf@gmail.com(mailto:> reidjf@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > Dear Sean and Gustavo, > > > > > > > > > I cannot reproduce this error. See below. > > > > > > On 27/06/12 16:54, Sean Davis wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Gustavo Fernández Bayón > > > > <gbayon@gmail.com mailto:gbayon@gmail.com)="">wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi again. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to add a little bit more of information on this > issue. I have > > > > > been debugging inside the parseGSEMatrix() function in GEOquery > source > > > > > code. The suspicious NA's appeared when execution arrived to the > following > > > > > line: > > > > > > > > > > ## Apparently, NCBI GEO uses case-insensitive matching > > > > > ## between platform IDs and series ID Refs ??? > > > > > dat <- > dat[match(tolower(rownames(datamat)),tolower(rownames(dat))),] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem here is that 'datamat' has the correct number of rows, > which > > > > > is around 480K, BUT 'dat' doesn't. At a glance, 'datamat' comes > from the > > > > > series matrix file while 'dat' comes from the GPL. > > > > > > > > > > If you go to the GEO page of that GPL ( > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/query/acc.cgi?token=djaxxiayqmwyspu& acc=GPL13534 > ), > > > > > you'll find it says that the GPL decryption table has exactly > 485577 rows, > > > > > which is kind of logical, a description for each probeset. > However, inside > > > > > the code, 'dat' has only 143889 rows. > > > > > > > > > > Replicating directly from R console: > > > > > > > > > > > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534',destdir='../../GEO/') > > > > > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count > > > > > > > > > > [1] "485577" > > > > > > > > > > > t <- Table(gpl) > > > > > > dim(t) > > > > > > > > > > [1] 143889 37 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was really surprised to find this, and I do not have enough > knowledge as > > > > > to know if it responds to an unknown constraint I happen to > ignore. Is that > > > > > ok? Or is there any bug in the GPL processing code? Now I'm going > home, but > > > > > I'll try to continue debugging to see what is really happening > inside. > > > > > > > > This is most likely a bug in GPL parsing. There are A LOT of edge > cases > > > > that I have tried to deal with, some not very appropriately. Often, > the > > > > error is due to an extraneous quote in an unexpected location. I'll > look > > > > into this one. Could you do me a favor and send along sessionInfo() > just > > > > so I know? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be very much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > Enviado con Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El miércoles 27 de junio de 2012 a las 10:51, Gustavo Fernández > Bayón > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am experiencing quite a few problems while trying to download > and > > > > > parse a dataset of methylation values. These are not technical > problems, > > > > > IMHO. GEOquery works perfectly, and it really makes getting this > kind of > > > > > data an easy task. However, I think I do not understand exactly the > > > > > lifecycle of GEO series data, and I would like to ask in this list > for any > > > > > hint on this behavior, so I could try to fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > What I first did was to download and parse the desired GSE data > file, > > > > > with the default value of GSMMatrix parameter (TRUE). Besides, I > extracted > > > > > the ExpressionSet and the assayData I was looking for. > > > > > > > > > > > > my.gse <- getGEO('GSE30870', > destdir='/Users/gbayon/Documents/GEO/') > > > > > > my.expr.set <- my.gse[[1]] > > > > > > beta.values <- exprs(my.expr.set) > > > > > > > > > > > > What really gave me a surprise at first, was to see many strange > values > > > > > (all containing the 'NA' string) in the featureNames of the > expression set. > > > > > > > > > > > > > head(featureNames(es), n=20) > > > > > > [1] "NA" "cg00000108" "cg00000109" "cg00000165" "NA.1" "NA.2" > "NA.3" > > > > > > [8] "NA.4" "cg00000363" "NA.5" "NA.6" "NA.7" "NA.8" "cg00000734" > > > > > > [15] "NA.9" "cg00000807" "cg00000884" "NA.10" "NA.11" "NA.12" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I select an individual GSM in the series, and download it, the > > > > > featureNames are ok. If I try to download the GSE with > GSEMatrix=FALSE, I > > > > > get a list of GSM data sets, and the results is again good. This > made me > > > > > suspect of the intermediate, pre-parsed, matrix form. I haven't > found a > > > > > clue about the lifecycle of this kind of data. I mean, how the > matrix is > > > > > built. Is it a manual process? Is it automatic? > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is a manual process, then I guess I will have to contact > the > > > > > responsible of uploading the data to see if they can fix it. But, > if it is > > > > > not, I would like to know if this is something relating to BioC > or, more > > > > > plausibly, to GEO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Gustavo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > Enviado con Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Bioconductor mailing list > > > > > Bioconductor@r-project.org mailto:Bioconductor@r-project.org) > > > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > > > > > Search the archives: > > > > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > > > > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Bioconductor mailing list > > > > Bioconductor@r-project.org mailto:Bioconductor@r-project.org) > > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > > > > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > > > > > > > > > > > library(GEOquery) > > > > > > my.gse <- getGEO('GSE30870', destdir=".") > > > > > > featureNames(my.gse[[1]])[1:10] > > > # [1] "cg00000029" "cg00000108" "cg00000109" "cg00000165" "cg00000236" > > > # [6] "cg00000289" "cg00000292" "cg00000321" "cg00000363" "cg00000622" > > > all(featureNames(my.gse[[1]]) == rownames(exprs(my.gse[[1]]))) > > > #[1] TRUE > > > > > > gpl <- getGEO('GPL13534',destdir=".") > > > Meta(gpl)$data_row_count == nrow(Table(gpl)) > > > # [1] TRUE > > > > > > > > > > sessionInfo() > > > R version 2.15.1 (2012-06-22) > > > Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit) > > > > > > locale: > > > [1] LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=C > > > [3] LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_GB.UTF-8 > > > [5] LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.UTF-8 > > > [7] LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C > > > [9] LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C > > > [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C > > > > > > attached base packages: > > > [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets tools methods > > > [8] base > > > > > > other attached packages: > > > [1] GEOquery_2.23.5 Biobase_2.16.0 BiocGenerics_0.2.0 > > > > > > loaded via a namespace (and not attached): > > > [1] RCurl_1.91-1 XML_3.9-4 > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > J. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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