Limma: Design matrix question
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Daniel Brewer ★ 1.9k
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Hi, I have an experiment where I have two different siRNAs (a and b) that target the same gene. I have 18 two colour microarray experiments where the control on Cy3 is siRNA non-targetting. For each siRNA there is three time points and for each of those time points three replicates (biological). I am planning on ignoring the time point for now. The comparisons I would like to make are siRNA a vs control, siRNA b vs control, both siRNA vs control and a vs b. So this is the design matrix I have got set up: a b siRNA 1a_48 1 0 1 1a_72 1 0 1 1a_96 1 0 1 1b_48 0 1 1 1b_72 0 1 1 1b_96 0 1 1 2a_48 1 0 1 2a_72 1 0 1 2a_96 1 0 1 2b_48 0 1 1 2b_72 0 1 1 2b_96 0 1 1 3a_48 1 0 1 3a_72 1 0 1 3a_96 1 0 1 3b_48 0 1 1 3b_72 0 1 1 3b_96 0 1 1 I think I must be doing something wrong as when I run the lmFit() function I get the following: > fit <- lmFit(MA, design) Coefficients not estimable: siRNA Warning message: In lmFit(MA, design) : Some coefficients not estimable: coefficient interpretation may vary. Is my design matrix incorrect? Thanks -- ************************************************************** Daniel Brewer, Ph.D. Institute of Cancer Research Molecular Carcinogenesis Email: daniel.brewer at icr.ac.uk ************************************************************** The Institute of Cancer Research: Royal Cancer Hospital, a charitable Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in England under Company No. 534147 with its Registered Office at 123 Old Brompton Road, London SW7 3RP. This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the a...{{dropped:2}}
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@john-fernandes-1557
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I have an experiment design involving 2 varieties with 3 treatments each (6 sample types). The 3 treatments were compared within each variety with a direct design for a total of 3 treatments x 2 dye swaps = 6 for a single variety and 12 for both varieties. We also compared the 3 treatments across the varieties with a dye swap so 6 (3 x 2) more comparisons. Each of the 6 sample types was therefore measured 6 times (3 with each dye). I'm setting up the design matrix based on the direct design example in the limma guide so we can use more than just the direct comparisons to estimate the coefficients of interest, which are basically all of the direct comparisons. I created one "basic" design matrix with just the direct comparisons to get an idea of what the coefficients should be. Then I tried to do a design matrix to pull in the other indirect comparisons for the "within variety" comparisons but the results are sometimes far from the "basic" design results. My arrays are: N R-Cy5 G-Cy3 1 v1.t1 v1.t2 2 v1.t2 v1.t1 3 v1.t2 v1.t3 4 v1.t3 v1.t2 5 v1.t3 v1.t1 6 v1.t1 v1.t3 7 v2.t1 v2.t2 8 v2.t2 v2.t1 9 v2.t2 v2.t3 10 v2.t3 v2.t2 11 v2.t3 v2.t1 12 v2.t1 v2.t3 13 v1.t1 v2.t1 14 v2.t1 v1.t1 15 v1.t2 v2.t2 16 v2.t2 v1.t2 17 v1.t3 v2.t3 18 v2.t3 v1.t3 Following the limma guide for the direct design comparisons (within varieties - using the t2 sample as the variety "reference") is in the first 4 columns. The 3 comparisons between varieties are the last 3 columns. v1t1.v1t2 v1t3.v1t2 v2t1.v2t2 v2t3.v2t2 v1t1.v2t1 v1t2.v2t2 v1t3.v2t3 [1,] 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 [2,] -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 [3,] 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 [4,] 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 [5,] -1 1 0 0 0 0 0 [6,] 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 [7,] 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 [8,] 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 [9,] 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 [10,] 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 [11,] 0 0 -1 1 0 0 0 [12,] 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 [13,] 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 [14,] 0 0 0 0 -1 0 0 [15,] 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 [16,] 0 0 0 0 0 -1 0 [17,] 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 [18,] 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 Is there a reason the coefficients generated by this design are so different in some cases from the "basic" design? Thanks for any help, John Fernandes [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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