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Hello everybody, Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the "real" gene names. I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO annotation to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. THX Assa [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? > I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the "real" > gene names. > I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO > annotation > to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. > > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. Sean [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Hi Sean, Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene symbols. But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene list. If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to hear about them. THX Assa On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? >> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the >> "real" >> gene names. >> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO >> annotation >> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. >> >> > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO > annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. > > Sean > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. > I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 > it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene > symbols. > But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene list. > > If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to hear > about them. > > You are using GEOquery, correct? (hint, hint....) Sean > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> >wrote: > > > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? > >> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the > >> "real" > >> gene names. > >> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO > >> annotation > >> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. > >> > >> > > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO > > annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. > > > > Sean > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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well not exactly, I found first the soft file on the server before I found out what GSE File I need. :~) I found the GEOquery only later. What I didn't get there was how do i find what GSE i needed. Just by stating the A-52... Number didn't get me anywhere. I have had to look on the server which chip ahs these annotations ( i didn't even know if this is an Agilent or an affymetrix chip) Is there a way of making such a query using GEOquery? If i understood it correctly, GEOquery is only to get GEO-annotation from the server but not the other way around. Am i wrong? Assa On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:53, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Sean, >> >> Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. >> I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 >> it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene >> symbols. >> But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene >> list. >> >> If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to hear >> about them. >> >> > You are using GEOquery, correct? (hint, hint....) > > Sean > > >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com>> >wrote: >> > >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> >> >> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? >> >> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the >> >> "real" >> >> gene names. >> >> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO >> >> annotation >> >> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. >> >> >> >> >> > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO >> > annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. >> > >> > Sean >> > >> > >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> wrote: > well not exactly, > > I found first the soft file on the server before I found out what GSE File > I > need. :~) > I found the GEOquery only later. > > What I didn't get there was how do i find what GSE i needed. Just by > stating > the A-52... Number didn't get me anywhere. I have had to look on the server > which chip ahs these annotations ( i didn't even know if this is an Agilent > or an affymetrix chip) > > Is there a way of making such a query using GEOquery? > If i understood it correctly, GEOquery is only to get GEO-annotation from > the server but not the other way around. > > Am i wrong? > If you know the GPL you want, GEOquery can download it and put it into R data structures. If you are starting from a GSE (are you?), GEOquery will download that AND the associated annotation automatically. If your use case is to start with a probe ID, that isn't something that GEO was designed to deal with, at least as a download. With a single probe, you could, of course go here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/ Do a gene profile search and then from there you will have your GPL annotation. Perhaps I'm not clear on what you are trying to do, though. If you want more input, could you clarify what you are trying to do (bigger picture)? Sean > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:53, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> >wrote: > > > >> Hi Sean, > >> > >> Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. > >> I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 > >> it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene > >> symbols. > >> But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene > >> list. > >> > >> If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to > hear > >> about them. > >> > >> > > You are using GEOquery, correct? (hint, hint....) > > > > Sean > > > > > >> > >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hello everybody, > >> >> > >> >> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? > >> >> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the > >> >> "real" > >> >> gene names. > >> >> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO > >> >> annotation > >> >> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO > >> > annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. > >> > > >> > Sean > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bioconductor mailing list > >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > >> Search the archives: > >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >> > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Hi Assa, I am afraid that in order to help you we would need to know more specifics about what you are trying to do. You might want to read the posting guide here: http://www.bioconductor.org/docs/postingGuide.html Also, since it seems that you might be simply trying to match a probe to a gene, if that is what youy are trying to do we can probably help with that. There are vignettes in the AnnotationDbi package that can probably get you started (assuming that you know what platform that probe originated from): http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/AnnotationDbi.h tml Marc On 05/11/2010 08:16 AM, Sean Davis wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor at="" gmail.com=""> wrote: > > >> well not exactly, >> >> I found first the soft file on the server before I found out what GSE File >> I >> need. :~) >> I found the GEOquery only later. >> >> What I didn't get there was how do i find what GSE i needed. Just by >> stating >> the A-52... Number didn't get me anywhere. I have had to look on the server >> which chip ahs these annotations ( i didn't even know if this is an Agilent >> or an affymetrix chip) >> >> Is there a way of making such a query using GEOquery? >> If i understood it correctly, GEOquery is only to get GEO- annotation from >> the server but not the other way around. >> >> Am i wrong? >> >> > If you know the GPL you want, GEOquery can download it and put it into R > data structures. If you are starting from a GSE (are you?), GEOquery will > download that AND the associated annotation automatically. > > If your use case is to start with a probe ID, that isn't something that GEO > was designed to deal with, at least as a download. With a single probe, you > could, of course go here: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/ > > Do a gene profile search and then from there you will have your GPL > annotation. > > Perhaps I'm not clear on what you are trying to do, though. If you want > more input, could you clarify what you are trying to do (bigger picture)? > > Sean > > > > >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:53, Sean Davis <sdavis2 at="" mail.nih.gov=""> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor at="" gmail.com="">>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Sean, >>>> >>>> Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. >>>> I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 >>>> it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene >>>> symbols. >>>> But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to >>>> >> hear >> >>>> about them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> You are using GEOquery, correct? (hint, hint....) >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2 at="" mail.nih.gov=""> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor at="" gmail.com="">>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? >>>>>> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the >>>>>> "real" >>>>>> gene names. >>>>>> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO >>>>>> annotation >>>>>> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO >>>>> annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bioconductor mailing list >>>> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >>>> Search the archives: >>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >
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Good morning, I'll try to explain a bit further. I have a list of over 40,000 mouse genes which I would like to cluster, align etc. I have the list of expreession values as an excel file. In this file I have the GEO annotations as Probe IDs of the genes. I would like to add the GO Annotations Hugo Symbols (and so on, what's needed). But first I wanted to find out what kind of array are these annotations coming from. I tried to use GEOquery, but as far as I understood it only works one way GENE <- getGEO(). So I have had to look for the right GSE file, so I can download the Annotations and gene ID's. As I said I have found it at last. What I wanted to know is whether there is a better, more efficient way of solving this problem. Is there a way in R of giving GEO annotations as an Input and getting other annotations as a result? What about Biomart? could this works? I haven't tried ot yet, but I will now.. If you have any other Ideas, I would like to hear them. Assa On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 17:16, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com>wrote: > >> well not exactly, >> >> I found first the soft file on the server before I found out what GSE File >> I >> need. :~) >> I found the GEOquery only later. >> >> What I didn't get there was how do i find what GSE i needed. Just by >> stating >> the A-52... Number didn't get me anywhere. I have had to look on the >> server >> which chip ahs these annotations ( i didn't even know if this is an >> Agilent >> or an affymetrix chip) >> >> Is there a way of making such a query using GEOquery? >> If i understood it correctly, GEOquery is only to get GEO- annotation from >> the server but not the other way around. >> >> Am i wrong? >> > > If you know the GPL you want, GEOquery can download it and put it into R > data structures. If you are starting from a GSE (are you?), GEOquery will > download that AND the associated annotation automatically. > > If your use case is to start with a probe ID, that isn't something that GEO > was designed to deal with, at least as a download. With a single probe, you > could, of course go here: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/ > > Do a gene profile search and then from there you will have your GPL > annotation. > > Perhaps I'm not clear on what you are trying to do, though. If you want > more input, could you clarify what you are trying to do (bigger picture)? > > Sean > > > >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:53, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com>> >wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Sean, >> >> >> >> Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. >> >> I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 >> >> it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene >> >> symbols. >> >> But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene >> >> list. >> >> >> >> If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to >> hear >> >> about them. >> >> >> >> >> > You are using GEOquery, correct? (hint, hint....) >> > >> > Sean >> > >> > >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com>> >> >wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? >> >> >> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with the >> >> >> "real" >> >> >> gene names. >> >> >> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO >> >> >> annotation >> >> >> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. "GEO >> >> > annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. >> >> > >> >> > Sean >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Bioconductor mailing list >> >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch >> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> >> Search the archives: >> >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> >> >> > >> > >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor >> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning, > > I'll try to explain a bit further. > I have a list of over 40,000 mouse genes which I would like to cluster, > align etc. I have the list of expreession values as an excel file. In this > file I have the GEO annotations as Probe IDs of the genes. I would like to > add the GO Annotations Hugo Symbols (and so on, what's needed). > But first I wanted to find out what kind of array are these annotations > coming from. I tried to use GEOquery, but as far as I understood it only > works one way GENE <- getGEO(). So I have had to look for the right GSE > file, so I can download the Annotations and gene ID's. > As I said I have found it at last. If you have data that is from an unknown source, there will necessarily be some forensics involved to determine what needs to be done. If you have data from GEO, though, then one will want to get the appropriate GEO accession and proceed from there. It is good to hear that you found what you needed. > > What I wanted to know is whether there is a better, more efficient way of > solving this problem. Is there a way in R of giving GEO annotations as an > Input and getting other annotations as a result? > The way to do that is to use getGEO() to download the appropriate GPL. After that, you can use any R tools you like to extract data from the resulting object. I'm not sure how that is inefficient, > > What about Biomart? could this works? I haven't tried ot yet, but I will > now.. > > Biomart could work for some arrays, yes. Also, you could use AnnotationDbi to buid a custom annotation package. Hope that helps. Sean > If you have any other Ideas, I would like to hear them. > > Assa > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 17:16, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> >wrote: > > > >> well not exactly, > >> > >> I found first the soft file on the server before I found out what GSE > File > >> I > >> need. :~) > >> I found the GEOquery only later. > >> > >> What I didn't get there was how do i find what GSE i needed. Just by > >> stating > >> the A-52... Number didn't get me anywhere. I have had to look on the > >> server > >> which chip ahs these annotations ( i didn't even know if this is an > >> Agilent > >> or an affymetrix chip) > >> > >> Is there a way of making such a query using GEOquery? > >> If i understood it correctly, GEOquery is only to get GEO- annotation > from > >> the server but not the other way around. > >> > >> Am i wrong? > >> > > > > If you know the GPL you want, GEOquery can download it and put it into R > > data structures. If you are starting from a GSE (are you?), GEOquery > will > > download that AND the associated annotation automatically. > > > > If your use case is to start with a probe ID, that isn't something that > GEO > > was designed to deal with, at least as a download. With a single probe, > you > > could, of course go here: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/ > > > > Do a gene profile search and then from there you will have your GPL > > annotation. > > > > Perhaps I'm not clear on what you are trying to do, though. If you want > > more input, could you clarify what you are trying to do (bigger picture)? > > > > Sean > > > > > > > >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:53, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz <frymor@gmail.com> >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Sean, > >> >> > >> >> Thankx for the answer, but I think I found a solution. > >> >> I have for example the GEO name A_52_P431770 > >> >> it's from the mouse genome (GSE14293) and I wanted to have the gene > >> >> symbols. > >> >> But I downloaded the complete GSE file and will merge it with my gene > >> >> list. > >> >> > >> >> If there are any other simpler /more efficient ideas, I would like to > >> hear > >> >> about them. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > You are using GEOquery, correct? (hint, hint....) > >> > > >> > Sean > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:47, Sean Davis <sdavis2@mail.nih.gov> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Assa Yeroslaviz < > frymor@gmail.com > >> >> >wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Hello everybody, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Is there a way of converting GEO annotations to gene names? > >> >> >> I have a list of GEO annotattions, but I would like to work with > the > >> >> >> "real" > >> >> >> gene names. > >> >> >> I was wondering whether there is a way of coverting a list of GEO > >> >> >> annotation > >> >> >> to its official (HUGO, NCBI, etc..) names and/or vice versa. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > Hi, Assa. You'll probably need to provide a concrete example. > "GEO > >> >> > annotation" is not, unfortunately, a well-defined concept. > >> >> > > >> >> > Sean > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Bioconductor mailing list > >> >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > >> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > >> >> Search the archives: > >> >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bioconductor mailing list > >> Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > >> Search the archives: > >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >> > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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