Testing for logFC significantly larger than threshold; or: calculating confidence intervals in limma
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Dear all, normally, one tests whether a difference between the experimental conditions (expressed as logFC) is significantly different from 0. Thus, limma provides a p-value (or adjusted p-value) for the test where the H_0 is that logFC == 0, and H_alt is that logFC =/= 0. I would like, however, to test the hypothesis abs( logFC ) <= T and the alternative abs( logFC ) > T, where T is an arbitrary threshold. For example, T=1 for genes for which the change of expression is significantly more than twofold, either way. Note that this is not the same as choosing genes for which abs( lfc ) > 1 and adj.P.Val < 0.05. A gene might have an estimated logFC over 1, and the logFC might be significantly different from 0, but it can have a variance large enough for the logFC not be significantly higher than 1. An alternative is to calculate the 0.05 confidence interval for each estimated logFC, since that automatically gives the answer that I'm looking for. Clearly, I can do the analysis myself, for example calculating the regular t-statistic, but I would like to take advantage of the moderated t-statistic present in limma as well as all the facilities for creating complex contrasts. Kind regards, January -- -------- January Weiner --------------------------------------
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Guido Hooiveld ★ 3.9k
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Hi, Is the function 'treat' in limma not doing what you are looking for? http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/6/765.abstract Regards, Guido -----Original Message----- From: bioconductor-bounces@r-project.org [mailto:bioconductor- bounces@r-project.org] On Behalf Of January Weiner Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 09:28 To: Bioconductor mailing list Subject: [BioC] Testing for logFC significantly larger than threshold; or: calculating confidence intervals in limma Dear all, normally, one tests whether a difference between the experimental conditions (expressed as logFC) is significantly different from 0. Thus, limma provides a p-value (or adjusted p-value) for the test where the H_0 is that logFC == 0, and H_alt is that logFC =/= 0. I would like, however, to test the hypothesis abs( logFC ) <= T and the alternative abs( logFC ) > T, where T is an arbitrary threshold. For example, T=1 for genes for which the change of expression is significantly more than twofold, either way. Note that this is not the same as choosing genes for which abs( lfc ) > 1 and adj.P.Val < 0.05. A gene might have an estimated logFC over 1, and the logFC might be significantly different from 0, but it can have a variance large enough for the logFC not be significantly higher than 1. An alternative is to calculate the 0.05 confidence interval for each estimated logFC, since that automatically gives the answer that I'm looking for. Clearly, I can do the analysis myself, for example calculating the regular t-statistic, but I would like to take advantage of the moderated t-statistic present in limma as well as all the facilities for creating complex contrasts. Kind regards, January -- -------- January Weiner -------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Bioconductor mailing list Bioconductor at r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor
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