Differences between lmfit model(from limma package) and Illumina-custom Model (from GenomeStudio)
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@gordon-smyth
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Dera Abdul, We use GenomeStudio in order to export probe summary profiles and control summary profiles which are then read into the limma package. GenomeStudio doesn't do any downstream statistical analysis, as far as I know, comparable to limma. To see what limma does, see the User's Guide: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/vignettes/limma/inst /doc/usersguide.pdf Best wishes Gordon > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:20:58 +0530 > From: Abdul Rawoof <abdul87.edu at="" gmail.com=""> > To: bioconductor at r-project.org > Subject: [BioC] Differences between lmfit model(from limma package) > and Illumina-custom Model(from GenomeStudio). > > Hello everybody, > > I am doing WG-DASL data analysis using GenomeStudio and R/Bioconductor. > Could anyone please able to tell me the major differences in both model > that affect the result. > If any documentation available please tell me. > > Thanks, > Abdul Rawoof > ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and intend...{{dropped:4}}
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@gordon-smyth
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Dear Abdul, Please keep discussion on the list. I don't believe that that the Illumina-custom analysis is to be recommended, but it is not described in sufficient detail to critique it properly. Generally speaking, vendor-supplied statistical analyses are a convenience for some users, but they are not usually subject to peer-review and they can't be expected to be as good as the best academic statistical treatments of data from the same platforms. This has been true for Affymetrix and other platforms besides Illumina. Note also that your differential results will depend on preprocessing steps including background correction and normalization as well as on the statistical test used, and the limma and lumi packages provide preprocessing options not available in GenomeStudio. I personally recommend the neqc() function in limma for this purpose. Best wishes Gordon --------------------------------------------- Professor Gordon K Smyth, Bioinformatics Division, Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, 1G Royal Parade, Parkville, Vic 3052, Australia. http://www.statsci.org/smyth On Fri, 26 Apr 2013, Abdul Rawoof wrote: > Dear Gorden, > > The Genome Studio software also have option for Differential Expression > analysis (I am using Illumina-custom algorithm). > I am using Quantile Normalisation+BH(FDR)+Pval 0.05 on both platform but > the No. of Differential Expressed Genes I got is different from both > platform. > http://expression.genomecenter.ucdavis.edu/documents/illumina_normal ization_081201.pdf > > Please find the attached file of my result from both platform. > > Sincerely Thaks, > Abdul Rawoof > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Gordon K Smyth <smyth at="" wehi.edu.au=""> wrote: > >> Dera Abdul, >> >> We use GenomeStudio in order to export probe summary profiles and control >> summary profiles which are then read into the limma package. >> >> GenomeStudio doesn't do any downstream statistical analysis, as far as I >> know, comparable to limma. To see what limma does, see the User's Guide: >> >> http://www.bioconductor.org/**packages/release/bioc/** >> vignettes/limma/inst/doc/**usersguide.pdf<http: www.bioconductor.o="" rg="" packages="" release="" bioc="" vignettes="" limma="" inst="" doc="" usersguide.pdf=""> >> >> Best wishes >> Gordon >> >> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:20:58 +0530 >>> From: Abdul Rawoof <abdul87.edu at="" gmail.com=""> >>> To: bioconductor at r-project.org >>> Subject: [BioC] Differences between lmfit model(from limma package) >>> and Illumina-custom Model(from GenomeStudio). >>> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> I am doing WG-DASL data analysis using GenomeStudio and R/Bioconductor. >>> Could anyone please able to tell me the major differences in both model >>> that affect the result. >>> If any documentation available please tell me. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Abdul Rawoof ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and intend...{{dropped:4}}
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