read.ilmn() and variation between chips
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Rao,Xiayu ▴ 550
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Hello, I have a question about background correction and normalization. Please help me out! Thank you for your time! I have four chips of microarray experiments, and therefore four data sets. I combined them together by merging on ProbeID and read in them as one file using read.ilmn(), and I combined all the control probe files into one and read it in. I just followed the limma user guide and use neqc() for background correction and normalization. Is it good enough? Do I need to consider within array and between array normalization? Thanks, Xiayu [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Dear Xiayu, Yes, it is good enough. neqc() has done between-array normalization already, and there is no need for within-array normalization for Illumina BeadChips. Please look at the help page ?neqc The read stages that you describe sound complicated. read.ilmn() reads the files as output by Genome Studio at our core facility without any need for intermediate processing. Best wishes Gordon -------------------- original message -------------------- [BioC] read.ilmn() and variation between chips Rao,Xiayu XRao at mdanderson.org Wed Jun 26 20:08:09 CEST 2013 Hello, I have a question about background correction and normalization. Please help me out! Thank you for your time! I have four chips of microarray experiments, and therefore four data sets. I combined them together by merging on ProbeID and read in them as one file using read.ilmn(), and I combined all the control probe files into one and read it in. I just followed the limma user guide and use neqc() for background correction and normalization. Is it good enough? Do I need to consider within array and between array normalization? Thanks, Xiayu ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and intend...{{dropped:4}}
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Hello, Gordon Thanks a lot for answering my two questions. The information you provided was very important to us. One quick question, you said that read.ilmn() reads the files as output by Genome Studio without any need for intermediate processing. What if I have so many samples from several chips, and I read in the data from each chip using read.ilmn(), and then I want to do comparisons based on all the samples? How to combine them? Really appreciate your kind help! Thanks, Xiayu -----Original Message----- From: Gordon K Smyth [mailto:smyth@wehi.EDU.AU] Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:37 AM To: Rao,Xiayu Cc: Bioconductor mailing list Subject: read.ilmn() and variation between chips Dear Xiayu, Yes, it is good enough. neqc() has done between-array normalization already, and there is no need for within-array normalization for Illumina BeadChips. Please look at the help page ?neqc The read stages that you describe sound complicated. read.ilmn() reads the files as output by Genome Studio at our core facility without any need for intermediate processing. Best wishes Gordon -------------------- original message -------------------- [BioC] read.ilmn() and variation between chips Rao,Xiayu XRao at mdanderson.org Wed Jun 26 20:08:09 CEST 2013 Hello, I have a question about background correction and normalization. Please help me out! Thank you for your time! I have four chips of microarray experiments, and therefore four data sets. I combined them together by merging on ProbeID and read in them as one file using read.ilmn(), and I combined all the control probe files into one and read it in. I just followed the limma user guide and use neqc() for background correction and normalization. Is it good enough? Do I need to consider within array and between array normalization? Thanks, Xiayu ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and intend...{{dropped:6}}
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Dear Xiayu, Genome Studio normally exports multiple BeadChips to the same probe summary profile file. Our core centre normally exports all the chips for each experiment to the same file. Even if you do have multiple files, read.ilmn() will read multiple files and collate them for you. Have you read the documentation? Best wishes Gordon On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Rao,Xiayu wrote: > Hello, Gordon > > Thanks a lot for answering my two questions. The information you > provided was very important to us. > > One quick question, you said that read.ilmn() reads the files as output > by Genome Studio without any need for intermediate processing. What if I > have so many samples from several chips, and I read in the data from > each chip using read.ilmn(), and then I want to do comparisons based on > all the samples? How to combine them? > > Really appreciate your kind help! > > Thanks, > Xiayu > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon K Smyth [mailto:smyth at wehi.EDU.AU] > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:37 AM > To: Rao,Xiayu > Cc: Bioconductor mailing list > Subject: read.ilmn() and variation between chips > > Dear Xiayu, > > Yes, it is good enough. neqc() has done between-array normalization already, and there is no need for within-array normalization for Illumina BeadChips. > > Please look at the help page > > ?neqc > > The read stages that you describe sound complicated. read.ilmn() reads the files as output by Genome Studio at our core facility without any need for intermediate processing. > > Best wishes > Gordon > > -------------------- original message -------------------- [BioC] read.ilmn() and variation between chips Rao,Xiayu XRao at mdanderson.org Wed Jun 26 20:08:09 CEST 2013 > > Hello, > > I have a question about background correction and normalization. Please help me out! Thank you for your time! > > I have four chips of microarray experiments, and therefore four data sets. > I combined them together by merging on ProbeID and read in them as one file using read.ilmn(), and I combined all the control probe files into one and read it in. I just followed the limma user guide and use neqc() for background correction and normalization. Is it good enough? Do I need to consider within array and between array normalization? > > Thanks, > Xiayu > > ______________________________________________________________________ > The information in this email is confidential and inte...{{dropped:10}}
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