DESeq2 Log fold change strange values for certain genes
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Layla • 0
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I am analysing single cell seq data from Maynard et al. and I am getting strange log2 fold change values for a cluster of genes when calculated with DESeq2. When I manually calculate the log fold change this doesnt happen, so I cant understand what is causing this. Using code on another help forum I have plotted the log fold change values so you can see the cluster I am talking about (there are also a couple of genes in the positive axis). There seems to be a strange gap with no fold change values coming out between 10 and 20 in both positive and negative directions.

#inputting data and running DESeq2 - DataS1S5 flow is from a csv of raw counts data with samples and counts for each gene 
#and coldata contains the conditions to assign each sample
dds <- DESeqDataSetFromMatrix(countData = DataS1S5Flow, colData = coldata, design = ~condition)

dds <- DESeq(dds)

res <- results(dds)

> head(res)
log2 fold change (MLE): condition S5 vs S1 
Wald test p-value: condition S5 vs S1 
DataFrame with 6 rows and 6 columns
            baseMean log2FoldChange     lfcSE      stat    pvalue      padj
           <numeric>      <numeric> <numeric> <numeric> <numeric> <numeric>
A1BG     5.47265e+00      -2.728897   1.64464 -1.659266 0.0970623  0.468531
A1BG-AS1 2.40010e-01      -1.610200   4.16164 -0.386915 0.6988191        NA
A1CF     0.00000e+00             NA        NA        NA        NA        NA
A2M      2.14842e+03       0.498344   1.11919  0.445270 0.6561244  0.937951
A2M-AS1  8.55214e-02       1.133983   4.15238  0.273092 0.7847823        NA
A2ML1    0.00000e+00             NA        NA        NA        NA        NA

#comparing fold changes:
##DESeq analysis
FC_DESeq <- res$log2FoldChange

#Export the median ratio normalized matrix
cts_norm <- counts(dds, normalized = T)

#Fold change calculated from the normalized matrix
FC_MLE <- apply(cts_norm, 1, function(x)
  log2(mean(x[coldata$condition == "S5"])/mean(x[coldata$condition == "S1"])))

plot(FC_DESeq, FC_MLE)
abline(0, 1)


sessionInfo( )

R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10)
Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
Running under: Windows 10 x64 (build 19044)

Matrix products: default

locale:
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attached base packages:
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 [9] ggrepel_0.9.1               DESeq2_1.30.1               SummarizedExperiment_1.20.0 Biobase_2.50.0             
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Graph showing cluster with large log fold change values by DESeq2

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@mikelove
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Can you plot the shrunken LFC using lfcShrink.

If you have multiple groups, you can have undefined LFC via the GLM. E.g. log2(0/0).

The shrunken LFC will give you a reliable value that you can plot.

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I have tried plotting that and I just get many zero values?

#extract normalised counts
normCounts <- estimateSizeFactors(dds)
normCounts <- counts(normCounts, normalized=TRUE)

#exclude genes with low normalised counts
idx <- rowSums( normCounts >= 5 ) >= 3
normCounts <- normCounts[idx,]

#calculate fold change manually
S1NC <- normCounts[,rownames(coldata[coldata$condition == "S1",])]
S5NC <- normCounts[,rownames(coldata[coldata$condition == "S5",])]

S1Means <- rowMeans(S1NC)
S5Means <- rowMeans(S5NC)

Genes <- rownames(S1NC)

GroupMeans <- cbind(S1Means, S5Means)
GroupMeans <- as.data.frame(GroupMeans)
GroupMeans$FC <- GroupMeans[,"S1Means"]/GroupMeans[,"S5Means"]
GroupMeans$LogFC <- log2(GroupMeans$FC)

#comparing fold changes:
##Actual analysis
resLFC <- lfcShrink(dds, coef="condition_S5_vs_S1", type="apeglm")
FC_DESeq <- resLFC$log2FoldChange

#Export the median ratio normalized matrix
cts_norm <- counts(dds, normalized = T)
#Fold change calculated from the normalized matrix
FC_MLE <- apply(cts_norm, 1, function(x)
  log2(mean(x[coldata$condition == "S5"])/mean(x[coldata$condition == "S1"])))

plot(FC_DESeq, FC_MLE)
abline(0, 1)

# number of FC got reversed
sum(FC_DESeq * FC_MLE < 0)

plot showing different calculations of log fold change

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This also gives an unexpected volcano plot:Volcano plot using LFCShrink

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My guess is that the groups are too heterogenous to combine them and you should just run pairs, like so:

dds_sub <- dds[,dds$condition %in% c("S1","S5")]
dds_sub$condition <- droplevels(dds_sub$condition)
dds_sub <- DESeq(dds_sub)
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Hi Michael, thanks for your help with this.

I have run your suggestion above in combination with Lfcshrink and the log fold change values now seem sensible but the p values seem wrong. I have attached a volcano plot showing the problem. The cluster that is sitting centrally seems to be the cluster I previously had large negative fold change values for that was clustering on the left (which I still get if I dont perform lfcshrink). Any suggestion for the strange p-values? Thanks

Volcano plot showing result of trying dds_sub

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Can you show code where you are getting the LFC and p-value? I'm suggesting to use the subsetting for both LFC and p-value estimation

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#generate DESeq data set from counts data
dds <- DESeqDataSetFromMatrix(countData = DataS1S5Flow, colData = coldata, design = ~condition)

#subset
dds_sub <- dds[,dds$condition %in% c("S1","S5")]
dds_sub$condition <- droplevels(dds_sub$condition)

#run DESeq
dds_sub <- DESeq(dds_sub)

#results
res <- results(dds_sub)

#LFC shrinkage of results
resLFC <- lfcShrink(dds_sub, coef="condition_S5_vs_S1", type="apeglm")

#volcano plot of results
VolLFC <- EnhancedVolcano(resLFC, 
                          lab=row.names(resLFC), 
                          x = 'log2FoldChange', 
                          y = 'pvalue',
                          selectLab = NULL,
                          pointSize = 2.0,
                          labSize = 4.0,
                          labCol = 'black',
                          labFace = 'bold',
                          max.overlaps = 10,
                          boxedLabels = TRUE,
                          drawConnectors = TRUE,
                          widthConnectors = 1,
                          colConnectors = 'grey50',
                          title = 'CAF-S5 compared to CAF-S1',
                          subtitle = '',
                          pCutoff = 10e-2,
                          FCcutoff = 2,
                          cutoffLineType = 'twodash',
                          cutoffLineWidth = 0.8,
                          colCustom = keyvals,
                          colAlpha = 1,
                          legendPosition = 'right',
                          legendLabSize = 16,
                          legendIconSize = 5.0)
plot(VolLFC)
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