Question: WGCNA gene clusters vs eigengenes
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10 weeks ago by
Queen's University
bioming10 wrote:

Hello, I'm trying to go through the WGCNA tutorial on mice liver data from

I understood the concepts from expression matrix -> soft thresholding -> adjacency matrix -> dissTOM -> hclust. This is where I'm starting to get confused: after hclust and I generate the dendrogram using "dynamic tree cut", and it detection a set of modules, I color modules with "dynamicColors". But then the tutorial uses moduleEigengenes() to generate another set of modules (albeit less modules than from hclust()).

My questions is:

does moduleEigengenes() use any information from hclust() generated modules? or is it just another way to generate modules? and you compare that to modules generated by hclust()?? but then I read from a presentation slide ( that moduleEigengenes() merges similar modules... so... does moduleEigengenes() merge similar modules generated by hclust()?? But from the code

MEList = moduleEigengenes(datExpr, colors = dynamicColors)

the only thing moduleEigengenes() takes as input that remotely comes from the hclust() is dynamicColors, doesn't seem to be using modules generated by hclust() at all... am I missing something?

but after moduleEigengenes(), the tutorial hclust() again using "as.dist(MEDiss)" instead of "dissTOM" as was with the first hclust()...

very confused, any insight would be very appreciated thanks!


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This was cross-posted (and answered) on Biostars:

Also note that WGCNA is not a Bioconductor package; however, one of the WGCNA developers is a member here, and may answer WGCNA-related questions.

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